Thanks a lot crappie reaper I tried to put in at Talala creek about a week ago but the ramp was totally out of the water. I will just motor up there tomorrow and give it a whirl. Thanks so much for the info. You have helped me out a ton. I appreciate the offer on the fish. I live in Talala and would love to go fishing with you sometime if you would be willing to go along. Once again thanks a lot!!!