i agree no TUT, i like to fish at nite and dont want to worry about a half drunk snowmobiler running me over while slaying the crappie. right now the weather looks like will return to freezing temps next week so we could still have safe ice up around the houghton lake area, missaukee lake -seems to have good crappie population according to my lakes book. maybe lets look at the 2nd or 3rd week of feburary to be on the safe side as far as ice and time to plan?