Thread: KY C.c Fruit Jar Tournament Rules discussion ...

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Originally Posted by chaunc

I dont get why everyone doesn't want to launch from the same ramp. Everyone has to weigh in at the same ramp dont they. Dont see the diffrence in saving gas to get to the launch site/ weigh in site, before or after the tourney. Not fair to launch closer to your honey hole than someone else does. And what about checking livewells before everyone launches. Honor system? Money changes SOME peoples honor. Everyone should launch at the same ramp.

Just a suggestion CUSA have to sign up in advance. I just thought anyone fishing would know the day before.

Originally Posted by crappiepappy

That's being taken into consideration. But, what about someone that doesn't post the day before, but attends the tourney & pays to enter ?? Are they still eligible ??

... cp

Originally Posted by wannabe fisherman

"Fishing within 50 feet of a marina gas pump or within 50 feet of a competitor’s anchored or tied off boat is prohibited."
leave out anchored or tied off, 50 feet is close enough no matter weather you're sitting still or moving.JMO

Louie may have a point ... so let's work on this rule.

What about - no fishing within 50' of a marina gas pump, or 50' of a competitors boat (period).
Or, we could set the rules at no closer than 50' to ANY other boat engaged in the act of fishing.

Now ... another question I have, in relation to this rule, is how are we going to know if another boat is a tourney competitor or not ?? If they pre-pay & launch at a different ramp, and you don't know them by sight, how would you know (and even if we all launched at the same ramp, and there were 15 or 20 boats, how are we supposed to remember all those different boats)
We may need to have some form of ID that's visible from a good distance, so we can distinguish tourney anglers from the general public.

I just don't want our tourney guys to get the same reputation that some tournament anglers have, about thinking they're in a $$ tournament & own the water. If we make the rule of 50' from ANY boat engaged in fishing ... then we shouldn't get a bad rep, nor would we need any form of visible "sign/ID" that we're in the tourney. The only downside to the 50'/ANY boat rule ... is that it doesn't protect us from non-competitor boats encroaching upon us.

... cp

Originally Posted by High Bridge Hooker

Just a suggestion CUSA have to sign up in advance. I just thought anyone fishing would know the day before.

Yeah, we're considering that angle. But, in some cases, the tourney official(s) may already be at the lake the day before the tourney ... and may not have access to a computer or wi-fi connection.
It's also been suggested (to me) that we print out the rules & include a place to sign a waiver of liability. That disclaimer is already in the rules, but I don't know if that is enough to make it legal & binding, without a signature.

... cp

You get on a busy lake in the spring you will spend all day moving and not fishing. I understand boats tied up but when spider rigging you will encounter many boats in a day. I have been in blood river where the boats are as thick as flees on a dog. If you stay 50" away you would never fish.

Originally Posted by crappiepappy

Louie may have a point ... so let's work on this rule.

What about - no fishing within 50' of a marina gas pump, or 50' of a competitors boat (period).
Or, we could set the rules at no closer than 50' to ANY other boat engaged in the act of fishing.

Now ... another question I have, in relation to this rule, is how are we going to know if another boat is a tourney competitor or not ?? If they pre-pay & launch at a different ramp, and you don't know them by sight, how would you know (and even if we all launched at the same ramp, and there were 15 or 20 boats, how are we supposed to remember all those different boats)
We may need to have some form of ID that's visible from a good distance, so we can distinguish tourney anglers from the general public.

I just don't want our tourney guys to get the same reputation that some tournament anglers have, about thinking they're in a $$ tournament & own the water. If we make the rule of 50' from ANY boat engaged in fishing ... then we shouldn't get a bad rep, nor would we need any form of visible "sign/ID" that we're in the tourney. The only downside to the 50'/ANY boat rule ... is that it doesn't protect us from non-competitor boats encroaching upon us.

... cp

Originally Posted by crappiepappy

Louie may have a point ... so let's work on this rule.

What about - no fishing within 50' of a marina gas pump, or 50' of a competitors boat (period).
Or, we could set the rules at no closer than 50' to ANY other boat engaged in the act of fishing.

Now ... another question I have, in relation to this rule, is how are we going to know if another boat is a tourney competitor or not ?? If they pre-pay & launch at a different ramp, and you don't know them by sight, how would you know (and even if we all launched at the same ramp, and there were 15 or 20 boats, how are we supposed to remember all those different boats)
We may need to have some form of ID that's visible from a good distance, so we can distinguish tourney anglers from the general public.

I just don't want our tourney guys to get the same reputation that some tournament anglers have, about thinking they're in a $$ tournament & own the water. If we make the rule of 50' from ANY boat engaged in fishing ... then we shouldn't get a bad rep, nor would we need any form of visible "sign/ID" that we're in the tourney. The only downside to the 50'/ANY boat rule ... is that it doesn't protect us from non-competitor boats encroaching upon us.

... cp

If we did the 50' from any boat then that means only about 10 boats would be able to fish in casey creek on green river lake. Competitor and non-competitors. I think your 2nd draft rules were good. If your anchored, then the another team has to stay back. If two boats are moving close together, then the respect rule should come into play. No difference that just regular fishing.

Originally Posted by crappiepappy

Yeah, we're considering that angle. But, in some cases, the tourney official(s) may already be at the lake the day before the tourney ... and may not have access to a computer or wi-fi connection.
It's also been suggested (to me) that we print out the rules & include a place to sign a waiver of liability. That disclaimer is already in the rules, but I don't know if that is enough to make it legal & binding, without a signature.

... cp

Probable need to set a deadline for sending in your entry fee in advance for each tourney, if they are going to launch from a different ramp. Who ever the official/weighmaster is, he will have to be the one to be at the weigh in ramp in the mornings for anyone who didnt send their entry fee so that it can be collected by a certain time, so that he can get launched himself.

Originally Posted by slabslayer1

Hey Chucky i think that cusa does have about the best set of rules out there, and it being a $30 entry fee I dont see anyone ruining their reputation to win $200 by cheating... it is always possible they will get caught. I also agree that the biggest thing about these tourneys will be the company and b.s. ......... With that being said I do think we should think about whether or not we want pro staff teams coming in and fishing these tourneys, after all it is just for fun and we should make sure everyone has a fair chance. If we do let them fish these tourneys I think we should be allowed to deduct 1 LB. from their total weight. I dont know any pro teams that would fish em but you can always tell pro teams from those flashy shirts they wear. Just an idea, but I'll go along with everyone else.

Hey!!! I have a "flashy" Crappie.com shirt annnnnnd a "flashy" UK shirt!!!

Back to the Boat Launch issue. We could agree that all entry fees be paid up saaaaaay, 1 week in advance. That could be confirmed with a dated reply email from the person collecting the funds. That way teams could launch at the ramp of their choice, but still be required to be at the designated weigh in spot by the designated time.

In the event that a team can't make the tournament that team could choose to have their entry fee, 1. Banked toward the next tournament they wanna fish or, 2. Refunded, less an agreed upon processing fee. I don't think that in a "friendly club" atmosphere that a team should have to forfeit their entry fee for not showing up. We all know that sometimes unexpected family or job obligations may come up. Take for instance my situation as a towboat pilot. If I have a coworker that has an emergency at home and they call me and ask me if I'll go catch a boat on short notice... I'm go'n!

As for identifying other tournament anglers... Have everyone tie a Blue ribbon to a seat pedestal or something.

For me it ain't about the money... I just wanna have fun with some good friends, shoot the poop, and learn a little something.