Ethics/legal question for ya....

**ATM** · 04-03-2013, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rees Guide

More the way they are enforced, 3 in the boat on Grenada and 2 up font fishing 9 and you wont here a word.
Really dont see where it was hard to understand, do you not think he number of poles is not set based on the legal number of fisherman in the boat?

I don't know. I've read it frontward and backwards, written the MDWFP Chief, assistant chief, my senator, and the governor. And I still get three poles PER PERSON, on Sardis and Grenada.

**Cray** · 04-03-2013, 08:08 AM

Ok, here you go Handi on the legal side. Year before last several of us were fishing on Enid in November. We all came in and 3 Wardens there. Friend had him,brother and father in boat. Got hit for over limit because warden said his father was not fishing. They had been sitting up there watching us all day. Told him his father had not picked up a pole even though he was licensed and everything. So to me if someone choses to do that your putting yourself at risk for a ticket. They were only using 4 poles each on front of boat. The pole thing I was told by a warden he didn't care how many poles one person was fishing as long as the number of poles per person allowed was not exceeded. Ethical on limits is up to each individual. I think it's wrong to carry someone just to keep another limit. That's just me.

**Rees Guide** · 04-03-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ATM

I don't know. I've read it frontward and backwards, written the MDWFP Chief, assistant chief, my senator, and the governor. And I still get three poles PER PERSON, on Sardis and Grenada.

Intepretaion is up to the warden and they all have their on way, I do agree is says PER PERSON.

**Handicrappie** · 04-03-2013, 08:20 AM

Thanks Cray..... That helps shed a little light on the Wardens thought process.

**Big H trucking** · 04-03-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by cray

Ok, here you go Handi on the legal side. Year before last several of us were fishing on Enid in November. We all came in and 3 Wardens there. Friend had him,brother and father in boat. Got hit for over limit because warden said his father was not fishing. They had been sitting up there watching us all day. Told him his father had not picked up a pole even though he was licensed and everything. So to me if someone choses to do that your putting yourself at risk for a ticket. They were only using 4 poles each on front of boat. The pole thing I was told by a warden he didn't care how many poles one person was fishing as long as the number of poles per person allowed was not exceeded. Ethical on limits is up to each individual. I think it's wrong to carry someone just to keep another limit. That's just me.

This is what were talking about. If there watching and see a person not fishing then i would think this will be outcome. I also believe they should be fishing to account for there limit/BOAT limit

**slimeyslab** · 04-03-2013, 08:38 AM

Legally do I have to have ethics?

**Rees Guide** · 04-03-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by cray

Ok, here you go Handi on the legal side. Year before last several of us were fishing on Enid in November. We all came in and 3 Wardens there. Friend had him,brother and father in boat. Got hit for over limit because warden said his father was not fishing. They had been sitting up there watching us all day. Told him his father had not picked up a pole even though he was licensed and everything. So to me if someone choses to do that your putting yourself at risk for a ticket. They were only using 4 poles each on front of boat. The pole thing I was told by a warden he didn't care how many poles one person was fishing as long as the number of poles per person allowed was not exceeded. Ethical on limits is up to each individual. I think it's wrong to carry someone just to keep another limit. That's just me.

Double standard and totally up to interpretation, why would one reg be overlooked and the other not. Could be beat in court, no explanation of the "act of fishing" that I know of but there is limits set "per lincensed fisherman". Would cost ya a day in court but would most likely beat it.
Called a couple of years back on a hunting issue when the Outdoor Digest came out. It has always been, until then, to shoot squirrels from a boat under power was illegal but that year it very plainly said you could in the digest. When I asked the question I was told it was illegal, I asked the officer on the phone if he had a new digest. He said yes and I ask him to read what I had read, he said "Hmmm, looks like you would have a good case in court".
Be on you Ps and Qs is all I know to do, when in doubt dont do it.

**Big H trucking** · 04-03-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by slimeyslab

Legally do I have to have ethics?

No.....but do you

**slimeyslab** · 04-03-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Big H trucking

No.....but do you

A few......nah

**Eagle 1** · 04-03-2013, 09:02 AM

several yrs. ago a buddy of mine and myself went to Enid . It was one of those days when everyone was catching the limit very quick (about 1.5 hrs. .) We decided when we had one fish less than our limit ,to throw them back and fish on looking for a 3lb. fish . game/fish checked us and wanted to know which had already caught their limit (we, did not answer, because we felt that he was going to write that person for fishing and catching over the limit) ? was told that the next fish that came into the sphere of the boat we would receive a citation ( because he considered both of us had the legal limit ) . Not wanting to get on my boss's bad side (I was a ranger at Enid ), we left . Wardens are like rangers , most are great folks trying to do there job, then there are some that have the "John Wayne " complex . Some wardens/ rangers write one book (25) in a yr. , some write a book per wk. Or day .

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