come fall time, I am a regular tree hugger. I have 40 acres down in washington county that my family does our rifle hunting on, and for archery season I just hunt public conservation areas. some of our public land is top notch as far as I am concerned. one day 2 years ago I was in my climber stand in a remote part of reform CA, and I saw 6 bucks and 5 does in the same evening. now I know that aint as good as what you see on TV, but I usually hunt the hardwoods of the ozarks and some years I dont see that many deer all season long. but that doesnt matter to me, it just makes those does and small bucks that much more special to me. come on sept 15!