Side imaging

[Slipcork]

Yes I did and at the time I thought it was way too expensive. That was until momma okay'd the 997, LOL.

Darryl, Maybe we should have got you a more expensive laptop?

When I put Titleman's 997Csi on his boat I don't remember a way to hook it right up to the computer. And looking at my Southern Marine book I don't see any way but by using the card reader. Humminbird has one p/n AS-CR. Don't know if it has software with it or not. List price $75.00

There is a cable p/n AS-SYSLINK that will two units to the same GPS receiver. Price $42.00

As far as I can tell there is only one trandsducer that is the size of a ski. With a trolling motor adapter if you wish to mount it on the TM. That is how we did Titleman's. P/N AD-STM-7

Call me if I can help.

[Humminbird_Greg]

Darryl,

Not sure what you are trying to do or expect from connecting a 997c Si to your computer but the only means of doing so would be to take the NMEA Output from the unit to the PC. I have some documents on this that I could e-mail back to you if you kit me with one first.

I know that at a minimum you will need the following to set up a second station for the 997c Si unit.:
- 540165-2 900 Series Connector Collector (the thing that holds the cable connectors to the unit). Will have to be ordered directly from Humminbird’s Customer Resource folks.
- PC-10 Power Cable.

After this you will have to answer some questions before I can detail what you will need (I am assuming that your first unit mounting location will be on the console and the second is at the bow):
1.) How are you wanting to mount the 997 to your boat? I ask this because if you were to get one of the removable mount systems (like a RAM mount), you would bolt the unit mounting bracket (a gimbal bracket) to the RAM and it would move with the RAM from the console to the bow and into your gear bag. This is what I would recommend doing and it will save you a few dollars from buying a second gimbal and you won’t have to mess with the unit mounting knobs every time you want to move the unit.

2.) What transducer were you wanting to run the 997 unit off of at the bow? If it is the same Side Imaging (Si for short) transducer that it is connected to at than you would need the US2-W Unit Switch to connect one transducer to two units (or in your case; two unit locations).

3.) Where are you planning on mounting the Si transducer that comes with the 997? Many are mounting that big (6+ inches long) and expensive ($200) Si transducer up higher than the bottom of the transom to keep it protected.

4.) Are you going to try and get high-speed readings from the 997 unit and if so will it be with the Si transducer or a second transducer inside-the-hull DualBeam transducer?

5.) Are you wanting GPS at both the console and the bow? If so than I recommend buying the AS-SysLink cable that will allow two units to share one GPS antennae.

I think that about covers it.

[Cane Pole]

A question about 997. Your specifications chart shows the RMS power 1000 watts at 50 Khz and Peak to Peak Power 8000 watts at 50 Khz. What calculator you folks using? My calculator shows Peak to Peak to be 2828 watts if RMS is 1000. Just curious.

Tom

[Doug Vahrenberg]

If you visit the SI group there is a good explanation on Peak to Peak and RMS or Root Mean Square and how Humminbird uses those in their units: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGpXRhN...r%20Output.pdf

[Cane Pole]

If you visit the SI group there is a good explanation on Peak to Peak and RMS or Root Mean Square and how Humminbird uses those in their units: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGpXRhN...r%20Output.pdf

I disagree with this. Where did the magical 8 come from? There is no relation ( 8 to 1) in my engineering hand book.

RMS ratings are misleading. RMS deals with instantaneous measurements. Also the peak to peak measurements are misleading. A more accurate measurement would be the average power. This is the way I see things anyway. Your engineers know this also. It is hard for me to explain (to anyone) what exactly sonar power is as there is no industry standards for power measurements. It is whatever the manufacturer(s) uses as a ruler. The sonar power measurements are very similar to the stereo amplifier measurements. Very misleading. I have a good understanding of electrical theory. I have talked to numerous reps (sonar and audio). They all try to blow smoke up my tailpipe.

I wish you guys (the manufacturers) would self police and come up with a industry standard that all could use and understand. It would make our life easier and I wouldn't have to gripe about the misconceptions of the power ratings.

Soapbox ends,

Tom

[Darryl Morris]

Darryl,

Not sure what you are trying to do or expect from connecting a 997c Si to your computer but the only means of doing so would be to take the NMEA Output from the unit to the PC. I have some documents on this that I could e-mail back to you if you kit me with one first.

I know that at a minimum you will need the following to set up a second station for the 997c Si unit.:
- 540165-2 900 Series Connector Collector (the thing that holds the cable connectors to the unit). Will have to be ordered directly from Humminbird’s Customer Resource folks.
- PC-10 Power Cable.

After this you will have to answer some questions before I can detail what you will need (I am assuming that your first unit mounting location will be on the console and the second is at the bow):
1.) How are you wanting to mount the 997 to your boat? I ask this because if you were to get one of the removable mount systems (like a RAM mount), you would bolt the unit mounting bracket (a gimbal bracket) to the RAM and it would move with the RAM from the console to the bow and into your gear bag. This is what I would recommend doing and it will save you a few dollars from buying a second gimbal and you won’t have to mess with the unit mounting knobs every time you want to move the unit.

2.) What transducer were you wanting to run the 997 unit off of at the bow? If it is the same Side Imaging (Si for short) transducer that it is connected to at than you would need the US2-W Unit Switch to connect one transducer to two units (or in your case; two unit locations).

3.) Where are you planning on mounting the Si transducer that comes with the 997? Many are mounting that big (6+ inches long) and expensive ($200) Si transducer up higher than the bottom of the transom to keep it protected.

4.) Are you going to try and get high-speed readings from the 997 unit and if so will it be with the Si transducer or a second transducer inside-the-hull DualBeam transducer?

5.) Are you wanting GPS at both the console and the bow? If so than I recommend buying the AS-SysLink cable that will allow two units to share one GPS antennae.

I think that about covers it.

Thanks Greg,

As for the laptop I just thought it would be faster and easier to just connect it directly to the unit and download if possible but it looks like I will have to get a card reader, etc. I mostly hover over and near brushpiles for crappie from a 21' center console bay boat. I want to mount a single transducer on the trolling motor and rotate it to scan the brushpile when approaching it to fish and while fishing it. I will also use the unit in the same manner to find proper placement for the brushpiles we sink. And then periodically, with the trolling motor down, I will use it from the console for slow trolling crankbaits or downlines. That being said, the primary position will be on the bow and the secondary at the console. The RAM mount system sound good to me for moving the unit from position to position. High speed readings I have no need for. Got the syslink cable to run GPS at both locations.

I received my unit today with a PC-10 Power Cable, an AS-SYSLink. Looks like I still need the US2-W switch, the 900-series connector and RAM mounts. What else?

Thanks again.

[Darryl Morris]

Darryl, Maybe we should have got you a more expensive laptop?

When I put Titleman's 997Csi on his boat I don't remember a way to hook it right up to the computer. And looking at my Southern Marine book I don't see any way but by using the card reader. Humminbird has one p/n AS-CR. Don't know if it has software with it or not. List price $75.00

There is a cable p/n AS-SYSLINK that will two units to the same GPS receiver. Price $42.00

As far as I can tell there is only one trandsducer that is the size of a ski. With a trolling motor adapter if you wish to mount it on the TM. That is how we did Titleman's. P/N AD-STM-7

Call me if I can help.

Heck yeah you can help. The job pays pretty good too or at least more fun than configuring 1800 computers. Thanks for the help with the part numbers. I've got some open days coming up and we usually do the boo and yank up a few if you want to go. I can see it now. Here we are doing one of our monthly outtings, Titleman and me in the same area, we get our lines tangled cause he casts and I pitch a jig at the same fish. LOL.

[titleman]

Daryl,

Let me first say, I am not qualified as an expert on the SI, but I have played with mine enough to be dangerous.

Having fished with you, I think I know what you are hoping to accomplish, but I have some reservations about your expectations.

I also mounted my transducer on the TM (actually Slipcork did it). That's where I wanted it, I'm still glad I did it. But, hovering can mean more non-straight movement of the TM, which will skew your view on the 997. Another thing, as you hover, you will need to be far enough away from your boo to allow the SI to pick it up, otherwise, it should show on your regular DF view.

I think I heard you got the opportunity to experiment with the SI at Crappie Camp, so you probably already know if it will do what you want. I am COMPLETELY sold on it, but I do think everyone needs to think carefully about where to put the transducer. Also remember, you need to run straight lines for the best reading.

I don't know about the direct hook up to a lap top, but a $10 card reader will give you some great images of the bottom.

Also, I didn't follow everything that was said earlier about the mounts, but the knobs and the gimbal are not very quick (and sometimes just contrary). I really got spoiled on my previous quick release.

I'm still trying to figure out how to see the fish, but I'm seeing EVERY stick, stump and brush pile in the lake. It's GREAT.

Once you get "expert" on yours, we'll swap talk on the settings. After a week, you will have logged more time on yours than I have all spring!

Titleman

[buflew]

This fish/dept/everythin finder seems like a great tool although my wife don't think so One question What would happen if you rigged the transducer side ways would it be like a forward looking sonar ??Just curious.

[Joey Briggs]

What is the diffrence in the 987 and the 997?