65 and older license exemption

[Dabbler]

I have been retired on KPERS for 12 years. During these 12 years I have not had a cost of living increase in KPERS thanks to mismanagement and the legislature's unwillingness to properly fund the program. Not having to buy a hunting or fishing license and getting a break on State Park stickers is a small token for one who worked 34 years for the state of Ks. Now those same weak knee legislators are being asked to take that away.

[crappiedoc]

Are you reading this correctly, those against are wanting accountability, it's not the $20 it's the principle. Those for think those against are leftist, free loading, entitlement bound pigs, but there are exceptions.

Craig, Scott, any other bios reading this, I know that your appreciated and now underpaid. However, your upper mgmt hasn't suffered like there subordinates. Upon asking for financial information that seems to be withheld presents itself "in a funny way".

Many of us today are living without cost of living or any pay raises, except for "upper mgmt". Nobody here "expects" a "free ride", although it has been granted in the past in this situation. I think its a safe bet to say we all feel like we've lost control of our government. They've passed laws to protect their ideals on how to rule us. All we really are asking for is accountability. Questioning your leadership is an informed citizens responsibility, this isn't the military, we support them too, remember

[imajigger2]

Dan, I have not had a raise in two years. I am not complaining. Yes I can demand to see the books just as you and every other person can, and by law they are supposed to show it to them. Recently your paper even showed my salary and pay rate. Why didn't they post yours or someone from goodyears?? Is there something to hide? I have no problem with this. If you are suggesting that KDWP go private then I will support your assertion.

[fishlessDan]

I took a large paycut 3yrs. ago and haven't had a raise since, like many others in this crappy economy, and I DO complain. But that isn't what this is really about.


I agree we need to account for all the retired fisherfolks out there, as there are an untold number of potential licenses that the KDWP could count towards getting more Fed. dolars. The most accurate way to obtain that info is to have all retiree's that fish obtain a license.

[imajigger2]

It is about transparancey and accountability and by the way it was us worker bees who pushed for the thingy in the paper. There were many many many ways to track this before, if it wasn't being done, why not? If it wasn't being done it is ineffiecency plain and simple doesn't matter how you slice it. So now you want to pay for ineffiency, and yes you do because if you didn't you would want an accounting of actual numbers before you jumped on the give em mo dough train.

[springhillwantabe]

It is about transparancey and accountability and by the way it was us worker bees who pushed for the thingy in the paper. There were many many many ways to track this before, if it wasn't being done, why not? If it wasn't being done it is ineffiecency plain and simple doesn't matter how you slice it. So now you want to pay for ineffiency, and yes you do because if you didn't you would want an accounting of actual numbers before you jumped on the give em mo dough train.

thank you very much

[fishlessDan]

Maybe KDWP wants more money to expand their nuclear arsenal

[CharlieM]

It seems to me that this is really blown out of proportion. $18 a year for crying out loud! I don't think anyone has their hand in the till. Judging by the Maryville boat docks or the Melvern boat ramp they really do need the money. And it would be great if they could afford to put in some modern fish cleaning stations. If we want good biologists, decent ramps and docks they have to be paid for. I have enjoyed a free fishing for 7 years now. If it is time for me to help foot the bill I will be happy to do it!

[crappiedoc]

AP just posted Gov. Brownback says no raises for state employees, however the will receive a longevity bonus of $50/10yrs of service up to $1250. Guess AP thinks you have to make it another 100yrs, surely it meant up to 13yrs@$50/yr. Tongue in cheek comments aside.

[Blackdog40]

If they can raise the rates on the 65 plus this time without any blowback, then next year they will raise the rates again then again then again. It is not the money or what anyone can afford it is the fact that Jennison thinks he can do anything he wants and get away with it. They took away the senior discount for camping they eliminated the second vehicle discount, now they want to charge full price for over 65. Okay what next charge over 65 more because they can fish more. That seems to follow some of the logic posted here.

I tell you what I would be more than willing to buy a discounted senior licenses so they can count it toward federal funding, but I also think it would be fair if they raise the regular fee by the same amount as they charge for the senior fee. That way we can all being paying more and we can expect great facilities at all of our lakes.

I would hope they would give the enforcement officers and the Biologist a raise. With that increase in money.