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    This is something i came across might be of some help
    Section 9.
    Depth Finder Interference
    Variable speed motors with a PWM speed control / Maximizer circuit can sometimes
    interfere with the operation of a depth finder. This can be due to RF (radio
    Frequency) or electrical interference.
    Here are a few steps to reduce or eliminate the interference problem:
    If the motor interferes with the depth finder when both are being operated:
    Step 1.
    Determine if supply voltage for trolling motor and depth finder is provided by the same / common battery.

    A.
    If yes, disconnect depth finder battery leads from the trolling motor battery and connect them to the
    engine cranking battery.

    B.
    Test depth finder for interference while operating motor.

    Step 2.
    If interference is still present at Step 1B, proceed as follows:

    A.
    Connect a light gauge wire (18 gauge is fine) from the negative post of the trolling motor battery to the
    negative post of the engine’s cranking battery. We suggest installing a 1 or 2 amp inline fuse in this
    ground wire. (Minn Kota P/N 2060310)

    B.
    Test for depth finder interference while operating the motor.

    Step 3.
    If interference is still present after installing the ground wire, proceed as follows:

    A.
    Check the routing of the depth finder and trolling motor battery leads. If they run parallel to each other
    for any length of distance, separate the leads as much as possible or run the leads to the trolling motor
    and depth finder on opposite sides of the boat.

    B.
    Test depth finder for interference while operating the motor.

    Step 4.
    If interference persists after completing the previous steps, proceed as follows:

    A.
    Check mounting location of the depth finder transducer. If the transducer is on the trolling motor’s
    lower unit, try temporarily moving it way from the lower unit while operating the motor and observing
    the depth finder display.

    B.
    If the interference is reduced or eliminated when the transducer is moved away from the motor’s lower
    unit, the problem is due to the transducers proximity to the lower unit.

    C.
    To reduce / eliminate this type of RF interference, a ground wire can be connected to the trolling motor
    lower unit. This can be accomplished by means of either an external or internal connection.
    Grounding the motor case in this manner creates a “shield” between the motor brushes and the
    transducer, trapping / shunting the RFI to the ground.

    C-1.
    To ground the motor case externally, drill a small diameter hole (1/8”), in the motor skeg.
    Attach one end of the ground wire at this point by using a self tapping stainless steel screw
    (18 gauge wire may be used for this purpose). Run the ground wire up the motor shaft along
    with the transducer coax cable. Connect the other end of the ground wire to the motor
    negative battery lead or post.

    C-2.
    To ground the motor case internally it will be necessary to disassemble, reseal, and
    reassemble the motor lower unit. (We recommend this be done only by a Minn Kota
    authorized repair center) With the lower unit disassembled, connect one end of a light gauge
    wire to the motor brush plate mounting screw (18 gauge wire may be used for this purpose).
    Run the ground wire up the fiberglass motor shaft along with the red and black motor brush
    leads. Connect the other end of the ground wire to the motor negative battery lead or post.
    Reassemble and reseal the motor lower unit.
    Depth Finder Interference 10/31/02
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    Step 5.
    In certain situations, when the above steps do not take care of the interference. One additional step may be tried

    (NOTE: this is an external ground situation only, as in above Step 4 C-1)
    .

    A.
    Because the center section (magnet shell) and the skeg (rudder) are electrically isolated from each
    other due to o-rings and/or paint, you may need to run the ground wire to the center section and the
    skeg. This involves either baring a spot under the transducer clamp (stainless steel hose clamp), and
    placing the ground wire in contact with the bare spot under the loose clamp (or a piece of aluminum
    sheet may be used between the motor and transducer - ground the aluminum sheet to the motor skeg).

    By following these steps the problem of depth finder interference is usually resolved.
    Oftentimes, simply connecting the depth finder to a separate battery will address this
    issue. At other times, a separate battery and common negative ground is all that is
    required. For other installations, all of the steps outlined will be required. Keep in
    mind that the steps should be followed in the order they are written and that the final
    steps should be attempted only after completing steps 1, 2, and 3 and testing with the
    depth finder.



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    Thx for the post. I have an Eagle 480 that gets interference when I turn on the trolling motor. I switched from the trolling batts to the cranking batts but that didnt help. Now I have other options to try.

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    Step 2A cured my problem. Minnkota even sent me the wire with the inline fuse free of charge. Humminbird sent me their inteference kit. Didn't have to use the kit but do like having a spare transducer.
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    Do you connect the wire to both batteries negative side on a 24V troller or just one and the cranking battery? If both would you use 2 in line fuses one after the first trolling motor battery then again after the second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnowhooker View Post
    Do you connect the wire to both batteries negative side on a 24V troller or just one and the cranking battery? If both would you use 2 in line fuses one after the first trolling motor battery then again after the second?
    Only the battery that has the negative TM lead on it. Connecting to both would short one battery.

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    The brown wire inside the power drive with US2 does ground the case to the TM battery negative. There is a issue (with US2) tying the negatives of the TM and Start together according to a post from Catfan from Minn Kota. We flagged this move last week if I recall correctly.

    However, these are the steps I always use troubleshooting noise. Glad you posted it Wilbur.

    What was left out of the instructions was the ferrite choke. Last call.
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    Thanks Catfan an Canepole. I have US2 so what I was doing won't work. I will try attaching a wire to the skeg of the troller and grounding it to the negative side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole View Post
    The brown wire inside the power drive with US2 does ground the case to the TM battery negative. There is a issue (with US2) tying the negatives of the TM and Start together according to a post from Catfan from Minn Kota. We flagged this move last week if I recall correctly.

    However, these are the steps I always use troubleshooting noise. Glad you posted it Wilbur.

    What was left out of the instructions was the ferrite choke. Last call.
    No, last call is to take a sledge hammer and smash the D/F into an unidentified mass. At least that's usually my last call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole View Post
    The brown wire inside the power drive with US2 does ground the case to the TM battery negative. There is a issue (with US2) tying the negatives of the TM and Start together according to a post from Catfan from Minn Kota. We flagged this move last week if I recall correctly.

    However, these are the steps I always use troubleshooting noise. Glad you posted it Wilbur.

    What was left out of the instructions was the ferrite choke. Last call.
    Yeah but CP step 2A tells you to do that they even give a minnkota part# for the wire with fuse



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    I do not believe the US2 was taken into account in this trouble shooting procedure Wilbur. This procedure has been around a long time.
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