I guess I should’ve read the front of the orange recipe book. Yes ctom is amazing. He was on here for quite a while, but we won’t talk about that and I sure do miss him being on here to chitchat. He goes into long conversations about how he does things which is very good for the beginners. There have been many other ones on here that are gone now I think I’m one of the last of the original bunch of guys that started on here his full time myself I have learned trial and error over the years and I’m always learning something new and I like to mess around a lot with different things in the shop when I’m out there I think I’ve done about everything there is to do with plastic. We still have the original projector that we bought from bear years ago nothing fancy but it’s still going and I have had so many different molds over the years and sold a ton of them, but we are not making anything to buy more so we have to save our pennies. I don’t see anything new in the way of those that I really like him anymore I usually come up with a brainstorm and have somebody make up one for me, but that is costly.