Been using jigs for over 35 years, bought minners once and the bucket full turned over backing the boat down the ramp, minners every where....... would rather go home lightly skunked than use them things....... like what someone up above said, ozark rod and southern pro tubes......... been using them southern pro 's from day one......... and still they are only about 5 cents each........ minners here cost $1.75 a dozen........and them loud battery operated minner mizer drive me nuts......... which takes only about 5 minutes........