i think a limit is more important to some of us than others but to me its not about how many or the size. me and lily lacked 2 fish the other day to have a limit, she told me she was ready to go so we put the poles up and left. not a big deal, it was awesome just being there with my daughter. and yes i do like to spider-rig and you can call me a MEAT HOGG! but a limit is a limit, NO MORE NO LESS!!! i give 90 percent of my fillets away and very proud to be able to. if joe wants to yo yo thats fine, they're out there just like you tryin to spend time with family and friends to not only catch a limit but to have awesome memories to look back on. these folks that cant stand trollers and yo yo's sound to me like they have an inner problem with themselves! and may need a check up. i like for everyone to catch fish and limits, i mean heck thats why we fish.