hello, i'm new to this forum. my uncle and i fish out of razor's landing (its less then 5 miles from the house) and are not doing good. the last trip 1/8/13, we trolled for hrs, 1-1 1/2 mph, w/ 12 poles doubled 1/8 jigs, some had 1/16 & 1/8, different colored grubs, blu/ chart, red/chart, white, blk/chart, small spinners, green/chart, small plugs, even added 1/2oz to some, casted into brush piles and still no luck. seen fish in 20+ FOW on the edges of channel, dropped minnors to them, and they still won't hit. we got 10 total, and 2 keepers, all day. we use a HB798 si hd on the trolling motor, and a HB788 ci in the back. i know they are there, but can't get em in the boat. anybody else fish razor??????? i'm thinking about moving to another lake. maybe fort loudoun????????? any thoughts or suggestions???? thx, rick