I like keepers also but finding them is tough on these lakes. Much easier to find them at the river. BTW, there is no length limit on Pin Oak OR any of the BRWDA lakes (Sycamore, Pine, Beech, Redbud, Dogwood and Cedar) and a 30 fish daily limit. I will keep fish 8" & up as it helps the lakes, they let us AND my wife likes the smaller fish better. Be sure on the permits, a sportsman's license DOES NOT include these lakes! It does cover Browns, Cub, Maples and Graham.