Gabe, when we're talking longlining we're talking about trolling @ 1 mph pulling jigs 75'-100' or so behind the boat. Now when we're spider rigging some of us might use the C&C setup using minnows with or without jigs. Spider rigging is usually done from the front of the boat and the trolling speed is seldom above .3 mph. And in most cases it's even slower than that....just "bumpin" along, but there are always exceptions. I've seen a couple guys trolling with a spider rig setup off the front of their boat using 16' poles running much faster than .3 but they had to be using 1 oz weights or more to keep their lines down. And I'd almost bet they were only using jigs.