Thanks Ledge. That IS a good picture. So EB and Ledge- how do I distinguish between crappie and shad in this picture. I have DS and in this pic the snowflakes( fish) seem a little larger and more spread apart or distinct than a bait ball. Is that it? If so where are the baitfish in the picture? Is that really 3 pretty solid feet of crappie? Sorry . That's a lot of questions. Thanks in advance for the answers!