Trees are easy to see Brian...piles looks like a school of shad looking from the top down unless you are directly over it then you will see it in the boats path on the HDS...move the range to the closest you can say 30/30 0r 35/35 to get the best picture and contrast at 67 to 70%..hope that helps...I have been having the best luck on the salt and pepper slab bandit and the blk shad colors, caught a few on the blueberry blue/pearl...you can always throw the BG in blue thunder and the pumkin/chart slab slayer as well...hope this helps as well..Ranger