Thanks for the info. I'll bypass it until the winter comes. I took my grandson out after school today, hes almost 8, we didnt take the boat out do to the possible weather moving in but as we walked to the boat we passed 1 bucket with 15-20 nice crappie and watched 2 other guys reel one in a crappie so he was good with fishing the marina. He caught 4, I caught 2, all keepers. He was happy.