Gobob. You have not offended me in any way. Your comments were positive and constructive. You are very welcome, as is everyone else at any of our camps. This is the 81st post on this thread. What does bother me, is that we are not one bit closer to getting a lake and date set. I have to plan ahead, The April tornado got my Mom's house, She got dementia and lost her mind, and I have to care for her daily. I have to plan ahead to get things done. I am sure there are others that need to plan for work ect... Hope this camp does not die.. It is a great idea...Good folks..