c'mon guys. this is the second time this type of thread has been started and the only two threads i have been forced to "edit" have been these two. i apologize for the editing, but when it gets personal, we (cdc) stand to lose much more than we gain. we have had a great board here in LA and we can't let namecalling and insults run off some good people. let's maintain our composure and realize that we will never all agree on anything.
johnny, if you think we need to lock this, i'm on board.
mark
Any man can be a father, but it takes a real man to be a DAD!!