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    Skip,
    As always thank you for the information.

    On the subject of "Action" is there a video, thread, article or something that demonstrates or explains the different types of "action" produced by different tail materials?

    In all the videos that I have watched, especially when dealing with "V" cut feathers I notice that they are always tied to the bottom of the hook. I was wondering if any information is out there that compares the "action" of various tails based upon where on the hook it is tied? I guess what I am getting at, does a tail material have a significant different tail "action" based upon where on the hook it is tied? Bottom of hook say compared to the side of the hook.

    Sorry for all the questions. Unfortunately I can not maintain my family reputation as "A storehouse of worthless knowledge" without them. LOL.

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    I guess the that would be a no to the question to the videos of tail action out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cause View Post
    I guess the that would be a no to the question to the videos of tail action out there.
    I can't say their is not one, but if there is I don't know it yet. However if you look at the materials for sale and so many of them will say something like...a lot like Marabou and I have to ask then why not marabou? It's some of the best material you can use on a tail.

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    Crazy Angler " Robert " and I had a discussion on tail action a half year back or so. As he sells the material for most of the jigs that most of us tie he stated that in the spring, Summer, and Fall it is mostly Marabou. But in the winter it is all kip tail. I have chosen to take a way different path and it has work out well for me. Gadwall flank feathers. On my gray ghost or other Minnow/ Shad patterns I have been using nothing but. I have found out that using it and a bit of red of some kind in the tail that it will increase my catch. Remember I am a meat fisherman and use them to feed my family for they have to work or forget the pattern. I am not in this for sport but for food. When you depend on mother nature for your food supply you get good quick or go home.

    I will say that the patterns will vary from lake to lake. Some will like a little red others pink or may be green. Here on Caddo it has to have red or it is not going to do that well. This is why I have stated in the past and say to all the young and new tiers that they need to make a study of any one pattern and see which of the ones they tie works the best.

    Nice work on your ties now fish them and see what works and what don't. Don't be discouraged if you don't have instant success it will come. Remember you have to untangle more than a few skeins of chenille before you become good.


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    Red you should try one of my favorite personal tails. I love using my Holo flash in Silver or Gold,but on my little Roadrunners I add one Holo Red strip between the side strips. This is awesome and when you see it in the sun coming through the water, it's remarkable! Of course that is using marabou.

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    I agree with Redman on the added red. Last year I tied a couple of the gray multi V tails and black chenille bodies that I use a lot of, except I tied in one or two V's of red in a few. Fishing 2 rods, one with red and one without, the reds did better. My test days were tough conditions but the results stand for themselves. I regularly use a piece or two of red flash in lots of my ties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiptomylu View Post
    Marabou is a feather that the entire thing looks like what most throw away on hackle. It mostly come from turkeys. These Roadrunners have marabou tails. The best way to use it is to pull off all the barbules from the stem, stack what you need and cut the end where you pulled it off to length and tie it in. Some will leave the stem in, but it has more action without it. Actually there is nothing that has more or better action than marabou. When in the water it almost looks like it's swimming!

    Those look absolutely awesome Skip. Fantastic job

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    I like to make a few wraps of red thread behind the head on my jigs, kinda simulates a gill plate.

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    Thanks Bobo!
    sticksteer I like to use red thread on my thread neck jigs!

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