Thornebros.com. They have them... all kinds of them. The St.Paul Ice show starts on Friday, Thorne Bros is the shining star of the show. I'm on staff with Thorne Bros and can say with some certainty that the Marcum boys will have these at a great price. Its kind of a long haul for some of you, but the internet service is excellent too and the show pricing will be available thru the store's website. Check out the Marcum site and take note of the "Troller" model....gonna be a big seller.