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    I am currently buyibng a new boat and want to set up my electronics the right way. Here is my situation. I am buying a new 2014 tracker 190 and am going to put a terrova ipilot with link and us2 on the front. I am taking this off of my old boat so I am fairly familiar with the operation. I have a hb798ci hdsi combo on my current boat as well. What I want to do is put a 998 SI on the console and move the 798 to the bow and then link the entire system together.
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    1. Will the US2 work on the 798 with DI? I know it is not capable of SI but using the 798 I have as DI is still more cost effective than buying a new DI unit and trying to sell the 798. For that matter is the US2 capable of down imaging with any unit?
    2. Does the US2 allow you to see fish as well as structure while the terrova is under power? Have heard a number of comments about this and am not sure. I used the US2 late spring with an older HB unit and could pick up structure but never saw a fish.
    3. I am confused to say the least if these three units can be used effectively together and if so what other hardware would I need besides all the ethernet cables and adapters and such.
    Thanks for any input from the professionals

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    Will not work on the US2. Get you a bracket and mount your Transducer on your motor. Then you have DI Long with 2D.
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    hunters1,
    1. As Cray said: the US2 will not work for any sort of Down Imaging (Di) sonar with any unit. Nor will the US2 produce the Side Imaging (Si) sonar beams. In the 798c HD Si units the Di sonar comes from the Si sonar beams, so if they do not work you will not get any Di sonar either.

    2. The US2 sonar should work like the 2D sonar does in your 798c HD Si unit now. So if you can tune it to show fish while using your 798’s Si transducer, you should be able to do the same with the US2 transducer.

    3. To connect the two units together with the I-Pilot Link to your two units you will need:
    - AS-EC-QDE cable so that your 798ci HD Si unit can be connected to the other cables.
    - Appropriate length Ethernet Extension Cable (AS-EC-XXE where the “XX” gets replaced by the cable length. Available in 2, 10, 15, 20 and 30-foot lengths) to connect the 798ci HD Si unit to the 5-Port Ethernet Switch and the 998 SI unit to the 5-Port Ethernet Switch. So you will need to figure out what length cable you need to connect each unit this way.
    - A 5-Port Ethernet Switch (AS-ETH-5PS)
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    - The MKR-US-8 Humminbird 7-Pin Adapter Cable to connect a Humminbird unit to the US2 sonar transducer (if you choose to do this).
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    Greg, I am sure it is obvious, but it seems the US2 technology is outdated compared to where the market is today. I bought the US2 option and that is on me but I would think that the company would be coming out very soon with some updated technology to accomodate the down and side imaging and maybe even an upgrade to the older units. Especially the Terrova which is difficult to mount a transducer to. Thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunters1 View Post
    Greg, I am sure it is obvious, but it seems the US2 technology is outdated compared to where the market is today. I bought the US2 option and that is on me but I would think that the company would be coming out very soon with some updated technology to accomodate the down and side imaging and maybe even an upgrade to the older units. Especially the Terrova which is difficult to mount a transducer to. Thanks for the input.
    I dont think US2 is out dated as there is more US2 used on the troller than anything.As far as mounting a transducer on the terrova I think it is the easiest and slickest way to mount a transducer of any motor out there for keeping the cable out of the way. I plan to mount a 998 or 958 up front and leave my 757 up there to use the US2 on it and DI or Si on the 998 at the same time if it will work that way, but will let greg answer that question for me.

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    The US2 is "cross-brand compatible" ...whereas the Side Imaging™ technology is proprietary...

    Adding Side Imaging™ crystals (notice the ™)...would make the US2 completely "proprietary" also...(no more "cross-brand" compatibility...)

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    Makes sense to sell a trolling motor that is compatable to other brands.
    clfarms1 my thought is that most are trying to use down or side imaging at the bow including you by your comments and the need to add another transducer is an added burden. I also guess you are referring to the post on this board about how to mount a transducer on a terrova and I have been told by a number of dealers and techs that they will not do this because it voids the warranty of the terrova. I will likely do it that way myself and add the 798 to the front of my boat and not use the US2 at all. My only point is that is ok but if I was a manufacturer I would try to find a way to do this that does not cause these issues and sell more of the DI and SI units for the bow. I am not the most mechanically inclined and that is becasue of a lack of patience and I told myself I was going to do this boat right and have all accessories done by the professionals who know how. The fact that I atleast want DI at the bow seems to make that impossible.
    Greg or any of the other experts.Does the installation method on the top of this board for a transducer on the terrova void the warranty?

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    its a pretty simple install, clamp it on the motor, take the head off the top,pull shaft out, run cable through bracket, slide back in and reinstall head, then get good glue and spot glue cable to shaft in groove. that does nothing to void warranty as far as i can tell. cable is out of the way nd your ready to go.

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    I agree, it seemed simple to do and looks to be that way as well but I have not been able to find a dealer that will do it. I don't really understand why. I intend to do it but I wanted to make sure there weren't other options. Would not be good to have a problem on an $1800 trolling motor and be told the warranty is not good because of modifications and the 4 dealers I talked to spooked me. We will see what kind of answers we get. I also plan to call Minn Kota.

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    hunters1,
    You would need to check with Minn Kota on whether this would void their warranty or not.


    clfarms1,
    The running the 757 and either the 958 or 998 units at the same time could lead to sonar-to-sonar interference as they will both be transmitting and receiving using the same 200kHz frequency.
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