Both guys are great. I've fished with both in the past. I talk to Jerry from time to time and he is always ready to help put me on fish. I fish their condos most every trip. I'm looking at going back up on November 1st, I wish I could make the Fall Crappie Camp, but I will be @ the Georgia/LSU football game. Jerry was very helpful when I decided to start fishing for crappie several years back. I jig from time to time, but mostly I fish the Jerry slip cork minnow rig. I've caught more fish in the last 2 yrs.:D, then I caught in the first 32. Thanks guys!