the 167 ramp is still closed but i am in the lease right before you get to the farindale store on the right and there is a place to put in down there if you got a 4x4. so yes i put in behind a locked gate. sure be glad when that construction is over and that ramp gets open because it is a pain to put in down there. it looks like they are almost done with the construction though. it was a lot of fun and that river is full of them green carp. caught them using plastic worms and a few on buzzbaits.