Thanks for the great tips. It seems like a great idea for someone else to locate the fish for you. I'm removing all my sonar equipment and replacing them with the following. A pair of 100X binoculars, some rearview mirrors so I can back into someone elses fishing hole while actually never facing them, a big 1kw boom box with some rap cd's, so I can annoy original fisherman in the spot and make him leave, a nice set of ear muffs so I won't need to hear the rap music and the nice comments of nearby fisherman. Thanks so much. I feel this will open up many new fishing opportunities