Ok, I understand that no pics no fish but I can't get my iPad to open up the jpg from my buddy's I phone...... Kept 30 from my boat....10 to 15 inches most 13 to 14 inches.....17 from buddy's boat 10 to 12 inches....bigger fish on break line 3 to 4 ft deep. Minnow or jig and minnow.....had the other 10 or so to the top of the water and got off. GGGRRREEEAAATTTT on the water.