the problem with butla......

**mississippi** · 04-06-2016, 07:07 AM

as i see it right now. i see several posts about getting 'a long way from the main lake' to find fish. with butla as high as it is, the fish have a very wide area to scatter to. and there are places where a man can go and wade or possibly get to in a boat. however, lots of these places are well outside of the reservoir boundary. i know from personal experience that if you go outside the boundary and fish and the right person comes along that it can turn into trouble. several years back i was fishing up a creek channel, and two other fellows came along fishing as well. i recognized one of them right off. as it turned out, i was "well outside the boundary" as green jeans put it, but i was given a courtesy and they went about their way. i made my way back towards the corp boundary after that, but not before hitting a willow fallen off the bank into the water. i smacked 'em pretty good and left.
a few days later i was up the same creek again, but inside the line. there was a man sitting on the bank fishing. i began a conversation and he turned out to be the owner of the land adjacent the the corp land where i had been a few days before. he would drive his truck in the field and walk in a piece and fish. i had seen him before but never talked to him. told him the story about the warden. he told me "yeah them boys say they aint catching no fish up there, but they go up in there and stay for hours. tell ya what, you go fish up there all you want and if they say something tell 'em i said it was ok." it was a good spring after that.
anyways, my point is, make sure of where you are. just cause water is there doesn't mean you aren't supposed to have permission. there are many an acre of flooded, wade-able land right now outside the boundary at butta. just my opinion.

**Cray** · 04-06-2016, 07:49 AM

Good, timely post there Mississippi. Not many people think about that and maybe save someone some head aches.

**Rees Guide** · 04-06-2016, 08:12 AM

Yep, I know of a lake that Butla may be backed up in, if not it is right there. Used to fish it all the time when we lived up there and have seen Bulta backing up into it.

**armyman** · 04-06-2016, 08:14 AM

Good post and some good tips to keep in mind. Haven't even thought about that... Thanks!

**crappieslayer54** · 04-06-2016, 09:27 AM

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I thought if you could access the area by boat that you could fish as long as you didn't touch the bottom. Like wading or during duck season your decoy weights couldn't touch the bottom.

**Eagle 1** · 04-06-2016, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by crappieslayer54

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I thought if you could access the area by boat that you could fish as long as you didn't touch the bottom. Like wading or during duck season your decoy weights couldn't touch the bottom.

You are correct . Wherever the water goes you can go . getting out on dry ground is a no/no .Walking the creek bank is definitely a no/no. The problem most have is they try to shove it down the landowners throat , which leads to serious problems . I have caught catfish on trot lines in the bean fields in the prophet bridge area at Enid . Always better to ask if you know who , then have C.O.E. ranger to contact the person and settle matters. Then ranger can notify you it has been settled . Never saw a fish worth that much fuss . There are larger fish elsewhere . JMO.

**"G"** · 04-06-2016, 11:20 AM

Yep...too many places to fish to worry about all that

**mississippi** · 04-06-2016, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by crappieslayer54

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I thought if you could access the area by boat that you could fish as long as you didn't touch the bottom. Like wading or during duck season your decoy weights couldn't touch the bottom.

I Certainly won't say your wrong. But what was indicated to me by the warden was I was where I wasn't supposed to be. I was In a boat. I never touched land. He even stated ....

'if a man comes by and tells you that you are trespassing, don't argue. Cause you are. You're well outside the reservoir boundary. Just a courtesy.'

**mississippi** · 04-06-2016, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by eagle 1

You are correct . Wherever the water goes you can go . getting out on dry ground is a no/no .Walking the creek bank is definitely a no/no. The problem most have is they try to shove it down the landowners throat , which leads to serious problems . I have caught catfish on trot lines in the bean fields in the prophet bridge area at Enid . Always better to ask if you know who , then have C.O.E. ranger to contact the person and settle matters. Then ranger can notify you it has been settled . Never saw a fish worth that much fuss . There are larger fish elsewhere . JMO.

What does a ranger have to do with fishin? Especially outside of
Corp property?

**armyman** · 04-06-2016, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by mississippi

I Certainly won't say your wrong. But what was indicated to me by the warden was I was where I wasn't supposed to be. I was In a boat. I never touched land. He even stated ....

'if a man comes by and tells you that you are trespassing, don't argue. Cause you are. You're well outside the reservoir boundary. Just a courtesy.'

How does anybody know if they're in the water off a Corps lake outside the boundary when there are no visible lines? Any landowner that says you are trespassing in the situation you were in, either is pretty dang peculiar, OR he is doing something illegal close by that he doesn't want you to see(or smell).....just sayin'

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