Thread: Angler - provacative; fish impulsive when provoked

Originally Posted by Spoonminnow

Disagree. A plastic that is harder than usual need not display any tail action - even under a float. Gulp and Power Bait Nibbles have no action and catch fish. Gulp!Alive! Minnows are stiff and catch fish under a float.

Not proven to make a difference - like using garlic or anise.

Weird to a fish isn't saying much. Crankbait with long bills have a wobble that is weird and unnatural yet still catch fish. Regardless whether a bait moves realistically or looks realistic or doesn't, still comes down to how it's used and size (and maybe color). All the rest - I no longer need to argue. Open minded anglers now have both sides to consider and prove or disprove every time they fish. Bet very few mimic anything! (the silent majority)

Disagree: burn a lure when slow isn't working
Crappie will never strike a burned lure. Bass will with pauses in between pulls but crappie and other pan fish - nope.

1. So you just compromised a bad bait design with a scent trigger, to get them to bite!

2. Crappie Nibblets are 2 triggers, scent and color...PRO-CURE is a line of scents that is made of Natural Shad, Craw, Menhaden, etc...scent is a trigger....the swimmers I use have a POWERED SCENT that is infused right into the plastic (with salt) and lasts the life of the plastic! VERY MUCH PROVEN under certain circumstances.

3. A crank has a locating vibration, sound, or both, that triggers speed and distance locating info to the lateral line....the erratic wobble/weird action, once located, triggers confusing wounded or injured reaction bites!
Other Weird things (Through a fisherman's eyes) that fish bite on, would be un-natural colors to us, ot weirdly shaped lures...they all can trigger a feeding reaction if properly presented.

4. This is probably your most erroneous statement you have ever made...Guess you have never seen BIG CRAPPIE run down a school of shad and feed. I'll post some pics of my swimbaits later...if Crappie are feeding heavy, you can burn a swimbait and Crappie will mash it like a Bass (and you don't have to pause for a Bass??)....They will knock the living daylights out of it! THIS IS HARDEST HITTING AND BEST CRAPPIE BITE OF ANY TECHNIQUE! If they don't get it the first time they will the second!
White Bass will do the same, and it's a Panfish???

Originally Posted by Spoonminnow

So, if an angler mimics none of that forage, he'll catch far fewer fish on average than an angler that does?
Many will beg to differ.

Now that I've had a chance to discuss this topic in detail, I will now unsubscribe. Thanks for reading and please consider the information that comes from experience and not from a book or some non-angler with a paper to publish. Being a lure designer, maker and tester has given me insight into what works, being always open to new discoveries. Many of these discoveries come from seeing other anglers catch fish in ways and on lures I never believed possible. Seeing is believing!

AT MY LAKE AND MANY OTHERS that have a huge forage base...NO, you will not be as successful as someone who can match the hatch, or switch colors to meet the pattern!
That's why there is not a single lure, that will work all of the time, at different lakes.

You guys still at it I see.

Originally Posted by Cane Pole

You guys still at it I see.

There's only one way to end this -- Thunderdome!

Originally Posted by Cane Pole

You guys still at it I see.

Hey, the Peanut Gallery showed up....I know, you're lucky so you don't have to worry about any of this, fish just come to you and bite!lol

Originally Posted by INTIMIDATOR

White Bass will do the same, and it's a Panfish???

Actually, no ... it's a "morone" (temperate bass family) ... but, your point is taken.

And I "somewhat" agree with you on the idea that Crappie will chase or ambush a lure going at a good speed (burn the lure) ... considering that they will & do hit jigs & cranks running at ~2mph or more. To me, that's pretty fast, and not the normal speed of any of the fish's prey species.

I've even had a Crappie "chase down" my Roadrunner, when I was reeling it in fast to get off another cast to my selected spot before the wind could blow my boat out of position. So, yeah ... if they want it bad enough, they'll kick in the afterburners and chase it down. It's not their "normal" modus operandi, but it does happen.

... cp

Originally Posted by deathb4disco

There's only one way to end this -- Thunderdome!

Nah, it ain't come to that, yet !!

The boys just need to heed the unwritten rule : "agree to disagree, and be civil about it" ... which I think they've pretty much done.

... cp

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