Brush pile ethics??

**coolbreeze** · 03-12-2014, 12:05 PM

inkdabber; i have to agree to disagree with you. ethics are good qualities in a person but when you put a brush pile into a public waterway it is fair game to whomever finds or fishes it. I have put many a pile in lake murray and have come up on them and had others fishing them. would ask how they are doing and go about my business to another. i have also found others and fished them. you are wrong in my opinon that everybody that does not put out piles is lazy sitting on their butts. you may not realize it but a lot of people out here do not have the tools/ability or access to be able to put out piles. one more thing; no matter who puts the brush in and where it is I cannot fathom somebody thinking that it is o.k. to plop down beside somebody else fishing it just because they put it in. where are the ethics in that? just my opinion

**Redge** · 03-12-2014, 12:25 PM

Another valid point CoolBreeze, some of our elders may no longer have the ability to put brush in. Those same elders may have placed brush that we fished on in the past.

**I go a fishing** · 03-13-2014, 05:51 PM

First come first served i say. no one can honestly say if they graph a good brush pile they didn't put in, they would just keep going and fish only the brush they themselves put in..?? i not that naive...and can any man say he hasn't fished brush he didn't sink..?? i think everyone who sinks brush should mark that location on a nearby tree, if possible, with all pertinent info..or better yet post the lat/long on line asking others to stay away....i know i wouldn't fish it..yea right

**SlabTracker** · 03-13-2014, 07:28 PM

If I find it or them, and no one is fishing it or them, then you're right I'm gonna fish it or them!

**dignlevel** · 03-13-2014, 07:59 PM

Well, this is why I rarely fish Wateree or Murray for Crappie. Too many yahoos with the same thing in mind. These lakes are too small and too easy for the average yahoo to find whatever you put out. If you want to "claim" you a spot with brush, then spend the time to find a spot on a lake people don't go to. Santee is a big ole place, come on down and add a little to it and I doubt you will find as many yanks on your brush! lol

**pafisher** · 03-14-2014, 05:49 PM

Has anyone ever thought about to many brush piles in the future.more and more will make less fish on each one.lake will be full of brush after a while.

**strmwalker** · 03-14-2014, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by pafisher

Has anyone ever thought about to many brush piles in the future.more and more will make less fish on each one.lake will be full of brush after a while.

your need to provide cover or you will not have fish and I have never seen too many brush piles !!! most brush piles fall apart if not taken care of and added to every year !!!

**boots** · 03-14-2014, 07:46 PM

I have a small boat so I fish a lot by myself, I enjoy having someone pull up and fish with me, I guess I should not tell this but I will watch him/her and see if I can learn something. I really believe you will meet 12 nice people for ever A__ ___ you meet. Really just how many will do without supper if they don't take fish home. Just my 2 cent. A good fisherman will always or most of the time catch something.

**Special K** · 03-14-2014, 09:53 PM

I have been watching this thread for a couple of days now... and it most reminds me of when I used to deer hunt on state wildlife land where anyone who was a legally licensed hunter could have a place to hunt without all of the anxiety of finding and securing private land to hunt on. I remember many times getting to the tree stand thirty minutes to an hour before sunrise only to see another hunter within 75 yards of me a couple of hours after full light. Well, it's just the price I paid for hunting public land is the way I always figured it... as much as it might have aggravated me to have invested that time only to find that it was a total waste of time. The same held true many times when a four wheeler would come through (what I called) (my hunt) an hour after daylight and come back through within only an hour or so after he went in.

Yes, it's no doubt annoying and aggravating to say the least... but the bottom line is... that's the price I paid for hunting public land where any and everyone had access... to exploit the same right to be there as what I had. I also remember another time that I went to (what I called my stand) for an afternoon and evening hunt... only to find someone sitting in my portable tree stand that I put there a day or so earlier. He was (of course) gracious enough to gladly surrender the spot when I confronted him (as he surely should have)... and was very friendly and sorry about it... but (then) he (only) settled in on the ground less than 80 yards away from me (upwind) after walking through the entire hunt to get there. What are you going to do?

My late dad (rest his soul) might have said it best when he said: "If a deer hunter had five hundred acres of land to hunt by himself... he'd be sitting on the edge of it looking over as much of the adjoining land as could... only because he felt like he was covering more ground." Similarly, he also said, "A bank fisherman will stand on the bank and cast just as far as he can throw out into the lake... to cover all the ground he can cover.... while a boat fisherman will spend huge amount of $$$$ on the fanciest boat he can afford and all of the gear he thinks he might need... only to fish as close to the bank as he can." Go figure!!!

I reckon the moral to the story is: It's human nature to complain about something or another all the time no matter what. More power to the ones that put out structure and work the hardest to ply the great sport of fishing... but to be sure you are smart enough to know that the short cutters are everywhere and they live to exploit the hard work of others (in every way they can) to their own advantage.
Is this really such a news flash or as difficult a question as this thread is trying to make it out to be???? I'm sorry, but I don't see the surprise.

**pafisher** · 03-15-2014, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Special K

I have been watching this thread for a couple of days now... and it most reminds me of when I used to deer hunt on state wildlife land where anyone who was a legally licensed hunter could have a place to hunt without all of the anxiety of finding and securing private land to hunt on. I remember many times getting to the tree stand thirty minutes to an hour before sunrise only to see another hunter within 75 yards of me a couple of hours after full light. Well, it's just the price I paid for hunting public land is the way I always figured it... as much as it might have aggravated me to have invested that time only to find that it was a total waste of time. The same held true many times when a four wheeler would come through (what I called) (my hunt) an hour after daylight and come back through within only an hour or so after he went in.

Yes, it's no doubt annoying and aggravating to say the least... but the bottom line is... that's the price I paid for hunting public land where any and everyone had access... to exploit the same right to be there as what I had. I also remember another time that I went to (what I called my stand) for an afternoon and evening hunt... only to find someone sitting in my portable tree stand that I put there a day or so earlier. He was (of course) gracious enough to gladly surrender the spot when I confronted him (as he surely should have)... and was very friendly and sorry about it... but (then) he (only) settled in on the ground less than 80 yards away from me (upwind) after walking through the entire hunt to get there. What are you going to do?

My late dad (rest his soul) might have said it best when he said: "If a deer hunter had five hundred acres of land to hunt by himself... he'd be sitting on the edge of it looking over as much of the adjoining land as could... only because he felt like he was covering more ground." Similarly, he also said, "A bank fisherman will stand on the bank and cast just as far as he can throw out into the lake... to cover all the ground he can cover.... while a boat fisherman will spend huge amount of $$$$ on the fanciest boat he can afford and all of the gear he thinks he might need... only to fish as close to the bank as he can." Go figure!!!

I reckon the moral to the story is: It's human nature to complain about something or another all the time no matter what. More power to the ones that put out structure and work the hardest to ply the great sport of fishing... but to be sure you are smart enough to know that the short cutters are everywhere and they live to exploit the hard work of others (in every way they can) to their own advantage.
Is this really such a news flash or as difficult a question as this thread is trying to make it out to be???? I'm sorry, but I don't see the surprise.

So when I find structure with my finder,and fish it you say I'm taking a shortcut. This is the reason fishermen buy fish finders.I am sorry but thats what I look for fish and structure.yes public waters for "our enjoyment ". I have put out structure and fellows will find it.

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