inkdabber; i have to agree to disagree with you. ethics are good qualities in a person but when you put a brush pile into a public waterway it is fair game to whomever finds or fishes it. I have put many a pile in lake murray and have come up on them and had others fishing them. would ask how they are doing and go about my business to another. i have also found others and fished them. you are wrong in my opinon that everybody that does not put out piles is lazy sitting on their butts. you may not realize it but a lot of people out here do not have the tools/ability or access to be able to put out piles. one more thing; no matter who puts the brush in and where it is I cannot fathom somebody thinking that it is o.k. to plop down beside somebody else fishing it just because they put it in. where are the ethics in that? just my opinion