DonG, talked to a buddy that was fishin this past w/e, jiggin spoons for stripers in 45-50fow, caught 2 nice crappie on the spoon. he said it was the deepest he's ever caught a crappie. Do you have that much line on ya reels? ya need to come on down to Buggs, with the warmin trend they predictin, the fish should really go to bitin by the w/e. and if it will make all y'all feel any better, I got skunked 4 times last yr. it happens to the best of us. Just makes me fish harder...