I gave tap a handful of 1/16 sickle hook #2 I was pleased with he threw em in his box and never thought twice about it. Five or six months later he tried one...thats all he uses now.. even bought the mold...point of the story there is definatly things out there that do a great job of putting fish in the boat. And besides a few for dinner having fun and shooting the snit is what its all about to me.