4# mono to 4# mono knot?

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03-10-2021, 07:56 PM
pescador

4# mono to 4# mono knot?

Want to fill reel half way with cheaper backing then fill completely fill with better line. Suggestions for knot to use?
Thanks and Regards

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03-10-2021, 08:33 PM
deathb4disco

uni to uni knot -- very easy and secure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oF-fb6ATys
03-10-2021, 09:56 PM
Cricketcage

I use a larger diameter line like 8 lb. mono to fill much of the spool and then use a blood knot to tie on the 4 lb. I know a blood knot will work well joining 4 to 4 also because I've used it to create droppers in the leader before. Getting hard to tie with my older eyes now though.
03-10-2021, 11:34 PM
forrest r

alberto is another knot that has a small footprint. I use it for tying backer line to the line I want to use along with using it to tie leaders. Typically fluorocarbon to braid.
03-11-2021, 12:05 AM
Techno2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricketcage

I use a larger diameter line like 8 lb. mono to fill much of the spool and then use a blood knot to tie on the 4 lb. I know a blood knot will work well joining 4 to 4 also because I've used it to create droppers in the leader before. Getting hard to tie with my older eyes now though.

I used to use the blood knot, and always found it difficult to tie. I started using the Uni to Uni knot and found it much easier and it's just as strong .
03-11-2021, 05:38 AM
Micanopy

Nail knot to Nail knot- easy to manage with one of the two dollar tools.
03-11-2021, 08:31 AM
BobC

The nice thing about this operation is that you can do it at home with good light. My eyes are not that great for close work anymore either, but at home you can take your time. The Uni to Uni might be a good one.
Bob
03-11-2021, 08:42 AM
yobuck

I used to use a blood knot, but lately have just been using a twice thru surgeons knot which is much easier.
Who cares if it is slightly larger, it wont be going thru the guides anyway.
03-11-2021, 09:57 AM
BobC

Quote:

Originally Posted by yobuck

I used to use a blood knot, but lately have just been using a twice thru surgeons knot which is much easier.
Who cares if it is slightly larger, it wont be going thru the guides anyway.

Good point. The twice thru is a pretty strong knot, tied carefully and well wetted before drawing tight. Due mostly to fumble fingers I now use it to tie replacement tippet on my fly leaders. Works well and the pans don’t seem to mind.
Bob
03-11-2021, 10:10 AM
yobuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC

Good point. The twice thru is a pretty strong knot, tied carefully and well wetted before drawing tight. Due mostly to fumble fingers I now use it to tie replacement tippet on my fly leaders. Works well and the pans don’t seem to mind.
Bob

3 times thru for making a loop knot on the jigs dosent bother them either Bob.
03-11-2021, 07:29 PM
skeetbum

Double uni for me. Easy for me to tie and works well.
03-11-2021, 08:20 PM
RVG Fishing

I switch it up and use the uni to uni and a lot of times a blood knot. I tend to tie blood knots faster from tying so many fly fishing leaders.
03-12-2021, 07:23 AM
Cricketcage

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Originally Posted by Fly2bTied

I switch it up and use the uni to uni and a lot of times a blood knot. I tend to tie blood knots faster from tying so many fly fishing leaders.

It's been so long since I've done any fly fishing that I completely forgot that blood knot application, but yeah I used to blood knot tippet sections to my leaders all the time.
03-22-2021, 06:14 AM
up2specks

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Originally Posted by yobuck

I used to use a blood knot, but lately have just been using a twice thru surgeons knot which is much easier.
Who cares if it is slightly larger, it wont be going thru the guides anyway.

Interestingly true Yobuck, BUT any line to line knot does have a very important issue. Although the percentage of line strength @the knot will NEVER be 100%, depending on the amount of line added, eventually, you will DREAD the famous "abbreviated cast"!:banghead This occurs with time/reties etc. when you encounter the "curb" within the spool caused by your "joint" that will shorten your cast. Large(more so) or small knots, even WITH close-cut, trimmed ends WILL cause this! What I do to "cure" this is to put a small piece of tape(electrical's fine) over the knot and voila "No mas"(quoting Roberto Duran{11-25-80}:Rofl):twocents:ThumbsUpAttachment 396901

u2s
03-22-2021, 07:31 AM
BobC

Interesting idea. Never thought of that one. Thanks!
Bob
03-22-2021, 10:18 AM
Techno2000

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Originally Posted by up2specks

Interestingly true Yobuck, BUT any line to line knot does have a very important issue. Although the percentage of line strength @the knot will NEVER be 100%, depending on the amount of line added, eventually, you will DREAD the famous "abbreviated cast"!:banghead This occurs with time/reties etc. when you encounter the "curb" within the spool caused by your "joint" that will shorten your cast. Large(more so) or small knots, even WITH close-cut, trimmed ends WILL cause this! What I do to "cure" this is to put a small piece of tape(electrical's fine) over the knot and voila "No mas"(quoting Roberto Duran{11-25-80}:Rofl):twocents:ThumbsUpAttachment 396901

u2s

No, his leaders are short, it doesn't even go through the line guides, I keep mine short also .
03-23-2021, 11:57 AM
RLS40

I use the albright knot to go from braid to mono.
03-25-2021, 08:15 AM
Spoonminnow

Never had a problem with uni to uni knot or uni to lure. I moisten the line like for any slip knot and do four turns through the loop.
Works just as well adding a fluorocarbon leader to light braid as with mono to mono connections.