Anybody heard if they aare coming out soon?
Fixn to have to rig up my old 561 so I can troll.:biggrin
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Anybody heard if they aare coming out soon?
Fixn to have to rig up my old 561 so I can troll.:biggrin
Don't expect them this year. Eufala hasn't started production yet and there is not a release date set. I would say if you see them it will be February or later next year.
the secret word in this add is "BACKORDERABLE" which tells me that they don't know when they'll get it. You might have to wait until next spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
I think they would be really be smart if they had them available for Christmas ..... but Humminbird is still tight lipped.
It is interesting that the Helix 9 will be an inch wider than the 999 ....... with the improved data box management, there will a lot more usable screen......and will have Autochart Live preloaded.
agree w/BobB..HB would make a killin'..IMHO
Guess Ill go with the primitive Hb and wait. Ill get another 10% off the Helix 9 with my BP card! :fish
Yall, this is the one.....http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...pswhmf7ply.jpg
A little more info starting to come out http://www.humminbird.com/Freshwater...tyle/HELIX_FW/
Brian with BBG Marine posted on another forum that the new Helix models will start being in inventory November, December, and January......They have finally sold down the inventory of the xx9 series to the point they are going to release the new Helix.
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Humminbird® Supersizes HELIX®, Refines CHIRP Technology
New HELIX 9, 10 and 12 CHIRP offer bigger screens, networking and AutoChart® Live
EUFAULA, AL. October 21, 2015
On the heels of HELIX® 5 and the ICAST 2015 "Best of Electronics" award-winning HELIX® 7, Humminbird brings anglers and boaters new supersized HELIX® units with unprecedented functionality. Please welcome
HELIX 9
HELIX 10
HELIX 12 CHIRP
The big brothers of the compact-format HELIX 5 and 7, the new HELIX 9, HELIX 10, and HELIX 12 CHIRP bring an eye-popping 1500 nits of widescreen brightness to your boat, making them easily readable in direct sunlight - even when wearing sunglasses. "One of the most common requests by anglers is to be able to see the screen better and we've answered their call," said Jeff Kolodzinski, Humminbird Brand Manager. But that's not where their powerful performance stops.
The HELIX 9, 10, and 12 CHIRP offer the full range of Humminbird Imaging technologies like patented Side Imaging®, Down Imaging® and 360 Imaging® compatibility making fish-finding a lot more about the finding.
One of the biggest HELIX advancements is that the new models are Ethernet capable, allowing them to share waypoints and SONAR across the network. "You want to have a unit right where you fish, so it's really an advantage to be able to run more than one unit on the boat while sharing data across the network," Kolodzinski continued. Many anglers have one on the console and one on the bow. Anglers can now see the same waypoints, SONAR and other data on both units and be in the know, wherever they are in the boat. Ethernet networking also brings compatibility with Minn Kota® iPilot® Link™ for the ultimate in boat positioning and fishing navigation.
Even better, anglers can now go where no map has ever been with one-of-a-kind, patent-pending AutoChart® Live technology, which allows anglers to make their own maps in real-time, no PC, server or Cloud connection required. Internal memory will store up to 8 hours of mapping data, or add an optional ZeroLine SD card for years of recording and the ability to share map data with a buddy.
And when it comes to getting around on your favorite waters, all are LakeMaster compatible with new PLUS map cards with aerial image overlay. Anglers will continue to enjoy the patented Humminbird LakeMaster benefits of Water Level Offset, Shallow Water Highlight and Depth Highlight.
While all that tech talk may scare away some folks, the hallmark feature of any Humminbird is ease of use. The HELIX 9, 10 and 12 CHIRP all feature the new REFLEX™ operating system. "It's an upgrade for sure, but it feels and operates in the classic Humminbird simplicity that has won the bows and consoles of so many anglers," said Kolodzinski. "The units are so easy to operate while delivering many technology options for fish finding and navigation."
HELIX 12 CHIRP: Fish-Finding Powerhouse
The HELIX 12 CHIRP boasts all the aforementioned attributes of the HELIX 9 and 10, but make no mistake about it, this is the head of the family. The 12.1 inch widescreen display is large and in charge and is fortified with built-in CHIRP SONAR technology.
The HELIX 12 CHIRP uses long transmit pulses that sweep across bandwidths of frequencies that are then processed using advanced Digital Signal Processing (DSP) to result in high-resolution SONAR with increased target separation and reduced noise. Enhanced target separation allows anglers to clearly identify game fish and baitfish, while reduced noise offers clear, sharp SONAR images.
The pulses used by the HELIX 12 CHIRP sonar along with the advanced Digital Signal Processing also allow it to obtain deeper depths while maintaining optimal resolution.
Not all forms of CHIRP are created equal. Some CHIRP products only allow the angler to utilize a pre-defined frequency bandwidth. In addition to providing pre-defined frequency bandwidths, the HELIX 12 CHIRP also allows the user to select multiple bandwidth settings to fully customize the SONAR to their unique preferences and fishing applications.
Humminbird's HELIX 12 CHIRP also works with a wide variety of optional transducers, and it is capable of CHIRP'ing through frequencies ranging from 28 kHz to 540 kHz.
"Side Imaging, Down Imaging, and 360 Imaging, continue to offer game-changing advantages in finding structure and fish," reflected Kolodzinski. "When you fold CHIRP into your electronics arsenal you have one more way to look at what's going on down there, but it's still only one piece of the fish-finding puzzle."
Oh Yeah!!!
Maybe Santa Claus will bring me a 12:biggrin
Great ... A new operating system ... Geez
Rickie
Here's a question for u rickie.the helix 12 has more pixels than the onix 10,but the helix 12 is a larger display.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
My question is,of the two units,which would have the better detail, going by specs only?
The math indicates the Helix 12 should have better detail ...
Pixel density comparison
Onix 10 - 1024h X 768v = 786,432 pixels/square inch
Onix 8 - 1024h X 768v = 786,432 pixels/square inch
Helix 12 - 1280h X 800v = 1,024,000 pixels/square inch
Helix 10 - 1024h X 600v = 614,400 pixels/square inch
Helix 9 - 800h X 480v = 384,000 pixels/square inch
I also surmise that the brighter nit Helix screen will play into what the user perceives as "more detail" ...
We will see ...
Rickie
May not be all that bad ..... The guys that are testing them say they operate pretty much like the existing core units ...... Except they have Autochart Live included.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Thought I would cut out the dementions of the helix 12 to compare side by side with the onix 10.To my surprise, it's not all that much bigger.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psvabah72s.jpg
that's a great picture! I wonder if the chirp will eventually trickle down to the smaller screened units
Got to looking at my drawing.it didn't look right so I did another.This one is pretty close to what the helix dementions truly are.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...pslp7rywqy.jpg
https://youtu.be/kVSjjA074cE. This is a very good info video,posted by doug vahenburg
OK ...so I uh-oh'd on my math here and forgot a step in the equation ...Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
The above numbers in my quote are "total screen pixels" ...
Here is "pixels/square inch" ...
Helix 12 - Diagonal 12"
actual screen dimensions have not been released yet ...
1280(h) X 800(v) = 1,024,000
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Helix 10 - Diagonal 10"
8.375"(h) x 5.0"(v) = 41.875 sq. in
1024(h) X 600(v) = 614,400 pixels
614,400 / 41.875 =
14,672.2 pixels/square inch
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Helix 9 - Diagonal 9"
7.75"(h) x 4.25"(v) = 32.937 sq. in
800h X 480v = 384,000 pixels
384,000 / 32.9375 =
11,658.4 pixels/square inch
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And I'm tracking down the ONIX actual screen dimensions to give accurate "pixels per square inch" ...
Sorry about that ...
Rickie
This is what I get.helix 12 is 12.1 diagonal and is 16.9 rasio
5.87 (v) × 10.46 (h)= 16,677 pixels per square inch,give or take a few
The onix 10 is a 4.3 rasio,comes up to 16,384 pixels per square inch(give or take a few)
I found the ONIX dimensions ...:
ONIX 10 - Diagonal 10.4"
8.50"(h) x 6.375"(v) = 54.187 sq. in
1024(h) x 768(v) = 786,432 pixels
786,432 / 54.187 =
14,513 pixels/square inch
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ONIX 8 - Diagonal 8.4"
6.75"(h) x 5.0"(v) = 33.75 sq. in
1024(h) x 768(v) = 786,432 pixels
786,432 / 33.75 = 23,301 pixels/square inch
I will add the HELIX 12 when we get verification of actual screen dimensions (I'm sure kosmo is close) ...
Rickie
Here's two pictures, that I find interesting. The person that took these pictures was comparing the helix 10,DI to the onix 10 di.He sad that using the onix,it was on default setting,while the helix 10,he had to make alot of adjustments to get his best picture. (Imo) I think the helix 10 DI picture is much better than the onix 10,in these two particular pictures. The reason this interest me ,I've got an onix 10,and agree that for the most part,it does deliver some pretty good pictures but in some instances, I would like to tweek it,but I just can't seem to get good results,like I can get with the core units,using there software. So this helix seems interesting.http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psvpknb96o.png http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psrohdtbho.jpg
It's really not an apples to apples comparison unless viewing both units live on the water ...
Any images taken on the ONIX are saved in JPEG compression format ...
Which means any ONIX images (on any external media) is not going to be same quality as the initial live image on the ONIX display ...
See this ...
Onix not selling well? - Page 6
This will make it very difficult for external media or Internet comparisons between HELIX and ONIX ... simply because once the ONIX image is not actually "live" on the ONIX display anymore ...that very ONIX image is not "true" to what the user would see "live" on the ONIX display ...
Rickie
If your correct ?how will I be able to compare,for myself?????:scratchhead:scratchhead:scratchheadrot fl
You already have ONIX for the "live" ONIX images ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
You just need to have HELIX images on your phone or laptop to compare ...(HELIX images are in PNG which should be the same quality on the unit "live" and on external media) ...
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The challenge will be for those that don't have access to ONIX ...because all they will have for comparison is external media ONIX images ...which are compressed into JPEG ...and not the same quality as ONIX "live" images ...
Rickie
Someone, asked how I came up with the helix 12 dementions. I used this calculator. ...TV Aspect Ratio CalculatorQuote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
That's an interesting link kosmo ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Rickie
In this picture that Bill Carson took,the helix 12 appears to be taller than the onix 10....http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...pswgsehcwc.jpg.
Rickie,I think that the helix and onix snapshot is identical. Both use the .jpeg format. The humminbird core series units use the .pngQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
If the HELIX does save snapshots as jpeg... It will be difficult to compare the quality of HELIX images on the internet ...Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Rickie