unless you are b Husein obaaammma or EB then it would be 56 more states to go.
Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers...
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unless you are b Husein obaaammma or EB then it would be 56 more states to go.
Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers...
:donoAfter reading the article...........just basically a judgement call on behalf of the castle law.:dono
I can understand that J_Row would be for this law. He seems to be that type of person that just hates any and everything that isn't for him.
LIVE BY THE SWORD-DIE BY THE SWORD!
What does Obama have to do with the amount of states in this country? Seems like you are just in it to start trouble.
He seems to believe there are 57 state in America. Goes back to his Muslim roots!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GrantH
Wow! About every other house down here will be shooting at cops when theyre getting busted for dope. And getting away with it too.:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
Yes EB I am against anyone violating my civil rights and if a policeman (or policewoman) breaks into my house without a legal warrant , then I have the right to protect my family. I know, I know you only believe the government (who's teet you suck on everyday of your life) has any rights in this country. That's exactly what happen to Germany under Hitler because people like you don't believe in people rights vs government rights.
Not if they have a legal warrant they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabowman
Sure seems like a lot of people believe governments should have the ability to do any and everything they want to against the public no matter if they are not guilty of any crime.
J Row, I am all for "due process" of the law (ie search warrents, reading a suspect their Miranda rights, ect) but I would imagine shooting a cop MIGHT be taking "personal freedom" a little bit too far. You wouldn`t be a "sovereign citizen" possibly ? As far as the Nazis, am a student of history and utterly DESPISE them and all that they stood for; without a doubt they were HANDS DOWN the WORST collection of mentally and socially sick persons in 1 place at 1 time, almost all of whom were criminally inclined thugs, and who were as a group megla maniacs, narcissitic amorale blood thirsty war mongering and apathetic pile of dog (deleted ) to ever con a nation into electing them to power. As far as I know, Hitler actually only kept his word twice. He promised to go to war (unfortuneately for Nazi Germany) and in March 1935 he swore that if his Nazi Party gained a majority in the Reich Stag within 10 yrs you wouldn`t be able to recognise Nazi Germany. By March of 1935, Nazi Germany was bombed and burnt out piles of wreckage reeking with the smell of tens of thousands of unburied corpses who had VOTED "Nazi" in 1935...am sure that WASN`T exactly what they had envisioned....
What difference does it make what religion he is? You can argue that he is trying to enforce Sharia law onto this nation but to believe that he could possibly do so is calling your nation (and yourself) weak mentally and physically. The fact is...he is our President...surely a grown man can respect that fact. Having Muslim roots doesn't make you a bad person, or "illegal" as some seem to think it does. I'm sick of hearing how Muslims are dangerous and all this garbage. The USA (or...the "smart" ones) have been at war since I was in 7th grade...and we are worried about the dangers of OTHER countries??? Maybe...just maybe...if we didn't run amuck in other countries dealing and business trying to own and run the world as we see fit, we wouldn't be losing soldiers and citizens daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_ROW
/Rant
I won't be back in here.
Unfortuneately there are those who REALLY just don`t "understand" that part of the "FREEDOM of RELIGION" guarenteed by the Bill of Rights which they pretend to admire SO LONG as you`re the "right" religion. Barak Obama`s as Muslim (and "born in Kenya/ Indonesia / Mars" ) as you are...but feel free to believe what you WANT to. It`s STILL America for the moment...
You have a point about running amuck. There are times that the US sticks its nose in areas it should stand aside, and others that is mandatory that we go in and do something about things. It's just how the world works. My fear is the US falling into the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT pit. We don't want to go there, no matter what. And Grant, take nothing personal in here. Regardless of how you feel about something, we have plenty of people in here to tell us we're full of crap. So don't feel singled out, no one's immune except for Poxy and EB, them boyz are special.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrantH
Excuse me while I go launch the boat.
So go ahead and cap a cop, even in Indiana.
That is the one crime that police officers always "solve", whatever the legalities involved. It also pays to remember that officers almost never enter a house alone. So you gotta cap at least two of them or the second will certainly get you in "self-defence". And in most cases that will be the only justification he needs. Your relatives will play hell trying to get it taken any further, but by then it won't matter to you anyway. When they have to force an entrance, they do it with guns out, too. They come in ready for trouble, trouble they are trained to handle besides.
The Indiana law is just one more wasted legislative effort, more essentially meaningless paper.
What I find irritating as much as the comments about our President (who I don't support, though who I respect), is that it seems like the general public believe cops are truly out to "protect and serve" with no skewed views or personal agendas. I (being white, upper middle class, and educated mind you) have experienced such first hand that cops are not only out to do their job and make this a safer nation. The majority of the force where I just moved from has been under investigation for years and years and actually had a handful fired last year. The local ICE team was dismantled an investigated for theft of recovered product as well in the last few years. Numerous cops have been forced to resign because of falsely writing tickets and other things of that nature. I don't trust, like, or very much care to be around cops and I have also never been arrested.
They have powers that no one should be allowed to carry in their back pocket; much like no1son detailed. Their word trumps all other unless physical evidence is given. So much for a fair chance.
You enter my house and your likely to get two to the chest. Shoot first and ask questions later!
Cop or not, I don't know you and your in MY house uninvited! Two in the chest. I dont care what state you live in, you have every right to protect you and your family in your home. PERIOD!
That's one of the things that makes this Country great is the ability to make comments about the President and not be hung in public. (At least for now).Quote:
Originally Posted by GrantH
As far as cops go, they're human too and like any other profession, either you're a good person, or you're bad. Just like every race, either you're good, or you're bad. I'd have no problem reading about a bad cop getting put down, yet as no1son points out, good luck proving your case.
Respect is something earned. You don't buy it at Wal Mart and pin in on a hollow suit.
no sense fighting the one world govment.....there was a guy born...i think his name is heyzeus christ...predicted this centuries ago, from my understanding; he don't be telling lies. we can only prolong it by who we vote for...one world govment will happen, never doubt heyzeus
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Originally Posted by Crappie Reaper
I think if we got rid of the ccw/chl laws and stuck to the 2nd amend as its written (let every legal citizen pack heat every where they go w/out the bs lic process).....we'd have alot less crooked cops and crap like that going down, and alot less crime in general..........CRAPPIEREEPER......POXis correct, like it or not its coming , best just be prepared.....POX it was more so John in the book of Rev chap 13......and Daniel in the book of Daniel chap 2 & 7that talk about the oneworld govt, not Jesus......but it is Biblical non e the less
so your solution is to let em kick your door down and comply to the same ones who "solve"their own crimes?...not saying all cops are bad but the ones who "solve crimes"them selfs will get no compliance from me......why put yourself at the mercy of such a lunitic?......can you reason w/em?........dpnt bury your head in the sand and let your self be vicitimized.......Quote:
Originally Posted by no1son
yessir, the text was inspired by him, written by those
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Originally Posted by jeepguyjames
Am NO great "fan" of Gov`ts, OR anyone who generates "paperwork". By the same token, there are "governments" and then there are assuredly sorry (deleted) excuses of gatherings of just plain whole heartedly UTTERLY EVIL and ruthless murderous regimes that care not 1 wit about anyone in those countries other than their own immediate family members and supporters. Syria comes immediately to mind, as was Libya, and of course Iraq. Sad (deleted) Insane`s famous quote comes to mind when asked about his fear of sanctions: "If EVERY Iraqi citizen must die to enable me to retain power, that is ACCEPTABLE..." The truelly horrific thing was HE SINCERELY MEANT THAT, and regularly killed ANYONE friend or foe whom he feared. The whole Iraqi government was 1 HUGE criminal enterprise. And forgive me if I can`t get over listening to people say "OH ! We REALLY have it "BAD" here..." REALLY? Forgive me if think that you REALLY NEED to go visit Pakistan, or Burma, or Viet Nam, North Korea, Cuba, ect for 1 yr and then get back with me. (Any takers ?)
In some ways, Viet Nam was a single mans paradise.:dono So how did we get from guns to Jesus to Asia?
Unless americans stay vigilant and educated you can add the good ole US to that list.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowellhturner
Accurately, how`d we get from "legally' shooting police officers in uniform on duty to discussing a change of locale where about EVERY police officer and anyone in power is simply a legitiment and deputized carreer criminal ? Seriously was trying to introduce some prospective here. ARE there "crooked" cops in America ? Surely there are, just as there are corrupt politicans, shady lawyers, greedy judges and amorale CEOs with "golden cargo parachutes" who`d loot and destroy their own companies while giving each other such HUGE bonuses that even the very stout cargo parachutes fail, sending themselves plummeting to richly deserved deaths. And the crooked cops have a "special" problem...MOST do eventually get caught and tried and sentenced to PRISON. Many choose suicide; it`s VERY HARD on a "dirty" cop to do any time, let alone yrs...
cause we bees broad minded simpletons......:cheers2
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Originally Posted by Cane Pole
So does this mean that you are against the Az law that allows the cops to stop Hispanics for no reason, and others laws that single out Blacks as with what happened in Florida?? Are you saying those laws are against those peoples civil rights. Or is it just your civil rights that your worried about??? :dono EBQuote:
Originally Posted by J_ROW
In a society that EVERYONE does not have equal civil rights soon NONE shall...
EB in your flash of wisdom on Az and Fl law please point out just exactly where you read these two laws. I would like for you to post them word for word with the web site that you found them on. I am waiting ( but I sure won't hold my breath). Just show us how really smart you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
You must be from Pretoria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowellhturner
He can't because as usual, he's talking out of his sphincter. Eb takes the news stories and revamps them within his own mind. He is incapable of repeating a story and just rewrites it to fit his thoughts. Kinda like MSNBC editing tapes so as to change the original intent to fit their own Liberal minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_ROW
Keep trying Eb, perhaps someday you'll get something right.
what happened in Fla. that singled out blacks? are you talking about them trying to prevent voter fraud? how does that single out blacks?.....if your are dead or a disney character, you cant vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
fishinRod you are talking above EB'S pay level now, you know he doesn't understand anything that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishinRod
Rights or no rights facing down someone who has busted into my home with guns loaded and drawn, and there will not be just one of them, when we are talking police, and very likely they will also have swat squad backup out side including a sniper, that is just plain dumb to my way of thinking, a very good way to end up in a coffin, no matter how much heat you keep around. That's all I'm saying. That's just common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepguyjames
And the increasingly conservative courts are giving them more and more legal backing to do just that so that even clean cops can be doing this under some conditions. I think I will try to live to nail those who abuse their police status in other ways and work to get them tossed and in their own legal trouble which I can only do if I live through this kind of situation. I see nothing to be gained to give anybody, especially more than one them, all highly trained in lethal weapons, any good reason to shoot at me first nor to shoot up my house either.
Cops on duty don't ever break in alone; so if you shoot one you gotta get them all. Remember that, you will be out gunned in every case, and even if you are successful you will be hunted down. Who will be around to do anything for your family then!
BTW Indiana has the death penalty. You guess wrong or just plain get unlucky that is where you end up for capping a cop no matter what rights you may have or how you claim them.
Very valid point no#1 son. Not to mention the MAIN QUESTION: WHY would the police bother to come kicking in the door of your "Average Joe"? from most everything I`ve ever read about "bad' cops there is generally only 1 of 2 reasons. The 1st is plain old fashion robbery. And in most cases, no, they didn`t bring a warrent, but they DIDN`T invite the local SWAT Team either to witness their crime, and actually being in UNIFORM might be inappropriate for that sort of late night / early morning activity. The 2cnd reason was shaking down/ ripping off drug dealers. Am sure this is likely the most common reason for a cop in uniform to illegally bust down doors. So just "Say NO" and don`t start dealling illegal drugs and likely you`ll be fine.