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Need some input, Have a Deka DC27 Tm battery about 1 1/2 years old, Still going strong!:D going to go with 24 volt TM , think it would be alright to buy one more DEKA DC27 , or would i be ahead to just buy two new ones??? or would you replace with some other type battery ?the DEKA came on the Boat new . already have the charger on order ,going to replace my 12v one, Anyone Use Deka Batteries ?? have not seen much on here about them .
THANKS:)
Was in a Cabelas store today and noticed they carry Deka. Salesman says it is their main brand. Z21.
Don't use DEKA, I use Interstate, but I've always been told to use 2 new ones of the same size, type and brand. Just what I've been told?Quote:
Originally Posted by HARLEYBOY
get you 2 of the Deka group 31's and you will be a happy troller
never used a deka but a friend of mine has a sawmill and farms and he talks highly of them,interstates on the other hand are the worst marine battery i have owned and the walmart batteries will outlast them
Deka and Trojans are very expensive, but they're worth the money. Good warranties and buy the charger they recommend (in size).
I've always heard a new battery needs another new battery when hooked up...but it's HARD doing away with a perfectly good battery.:o Personally, I'd probably go with another Deka like the one I had and hope for the best.
Interstate has never let me down!Quote:
Originally Posted by blueball
interstate car series have been the best for me but motorclcle and boat have been trouble,i can`t get over 3yrs on their marine batterys and their toast.i would almost always get 5yrs out of the everstart walmart batteries
Ive sold both brands over the years. Funny thing is there are only a handful of companies building batteries just different stickers. We sold a battery for years manufactured in Corydon Iowa using Voltmaster name. they were bought by DEKA. Same battery different name. Had far less problems and warranty with them than Interstates.Not sugar coating anything just the plain hard facts. If you are going to 24 volt start with 2 frsh batteries.
Maybe I need to go to the everstart I have never got 5 years out of mine :( 3 maybe 4 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by blueball
the interstates seem if u ever let them get low on water their toast and the everstart i add water and everthing is fine,i check my water level most of the time but if this happens the interstates are toast usually
Exide makes Wal-Mart batteries right here in my hometown, there's a lot of interesting "stuff" with them. They have at least 3 different companies that buy their blems or 2nds. We use them cause we get them cheap. And they make batteries for lots of different companies just as stated, only diff is the stickers. Mixing old and new won't hurt your tm, but if your using an on board charger, thats where you can have serious problems. So if you manually charge no problems. If you do mix, put the new one on your + out cable, this should help in your run time. Johnson Controls WAS making Interstate and Die-Hard, I'm not sure if this is still true, but the 2 above companies are the only ones with the capacities for production.
I've had several different brands in the past. Don't think any one brand is better than the other although a pro friend of mine recommends only Interstate but he might own stock so who know? In my opinion it's a lot like coooking fish, it's not the fish that tasts bad it's how you prepared it. It's not the battery that's bad it's how you maintained it. There's one thing about batteries...you get what you put into them. Keep them well maintained, water levels, recharging fully after fully drained... those are the things that will serve up a long battery life. On the other hand, if you mistreat, allow to freeze, partially recharge or charge before completely drained... that's when you get stuck with a battery that won't start the engine or run the trollin motor while the wind drifts you further out into the lake. If you're gonna do that I'd recommend a heavy anchor.
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Originally Posted by EnonEye
Exactly!
Thanks Guys for the input, the TM battery has not been used all that much & been on charge tested great under load so , think I will try and get one more dc27 for up fount, and hook them for 12v now untill I can get the 24vTM.then change them around for 24V, Know any place that sells DEKA batteries in NW ALABAMA ??? right off hand???
THANKS
HARLEYBOY,
I have been the route with batteries. Deka is a good battery. You can probably get them at NAPA. They, like anything else that's half way good are a little expensive. IMHO Interstate is a no no.
I personally like the maintenance free battery. I have had the best success with the Delco Voyager. They are a also a little expensive and hard to find. I got the last ones from an AC DELCO dealer. The Delco's that I currently have have been in the boat for 6 years and are still going strong. I have an on-board 3 bank charger to maintain them.
Since 2006, the Delcos and Interstates are the same battery and are not sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLAB MASTER
[QUOTE=EnonEye;1325490]I've had several different brands in the past. Don't think any one brand is better than the other although a pro friend of mine recommends only Interstate but he might own stock so who know? In my opinion it's a lot like coooking fish, it's not the fish that tasts bad it's how you prepared it. It's not the battery that's bad it's how you maintained it. There's one thing about batteries...you get what you put into them. Keep them well maintained, water levels, recharging fully after fully drained... those are the things that will serve up a long battery life. On the other hand, if you mistreat, allow to freeze, partially recharge or charge before completely drained... that's when you get stuck with a battery that won't start the engine or run the trollin motor while the wind drifts you further out into the lake. If you're gonna do that I'd recommend a heavy anchor.[/Q
the interstates i had and the everstart are maintained the same ,bought 2 interstates at the same time and they won`t make it a full 3yrs and i know everstarts will,will never buy another interstate marine or 4wheeler battery(thats what is on my fourwheeler 2yrs and acts like its going bad)but the interstate automible batteries i have owned have been the best ive ever owned .
Get 2 new batteries for the 24V and use the 27 battery you have now for a cranking battery
This is interesting to me catfan as I have really had good luck with delco....(mind you the last delco's I bought were in '01 and they lasted 9 years with an onboard charger)...Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
This info may keep me from buying delco again...
Do you have a link or something where you found this info...??
I been told the same thing,only a couple companies making them and putting different names on them,but it seems like people get different results out of the same thing,but I also would buy a new one to match it up with.
Got a couple of NAPA group 31's for my trolling motor. So far so good.
The NAPA's I bought this past spring were made by Deka...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockmike
I used to work in battery testing and evaluation and still get a few trade publications, and I remember it when it happened, since Indiana was pretty well the home of Delco-Remy and later Delphi. I found another reference that said Delphi sold their battery business to Johnson Control in 04 instead of 06 here Delco Remy Division - History, which is an interesting read, but Wikipedia says 2006. Delco, Everstart, Interstate, Motorcraft, Duralast from Autozone, Energizer from Sam's and Optima are all made by JC. Delco has marketed a Professional series of batteries, but I don't know who makes them. They don't publish specs and they are very hard to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Battery manufacturing is a nightmare of environmental regulation and high shipping costs, so there has been a bunch of consolidation in the last 10years.
IMO, there's not enough difference to pay attention to between the Johnson Controls, Exide and Deka/East Penn batteries. Buy whichever you can get with the best customer service in case you have a warranty issue and keep them charged all the time and you will typically get good life out of them. I buy only the Everstarts even though they don't have much warranty anymore. The price is too good and I get 5-6 years out of a set. If you got 9 years out of a set, that means you take care of them and should have good luck with most any battery.
Trojan and Rolls make a better quality battery IMO, but you pay for it.
Cabela's AGMs are hard to pass up if you fish a lot and have one close.
I like you went through the battery delema, I called,talked to several people and they all came up with the same suggestion, get the best you can afford eaven if you cant afford it, save and wait till you can, you will be glad, the 31 class seems to be the choice of all, so that's what I went with. and I am glad, can run 9hrs. in a bass tracker. I run the trolling motor 90 percent of the time I am fishing and the batteries are holding up well so far.
I am not going to endorse any certain brand, I think they are mostly the same battery as stated before. just get the 31 class and you should be fine, good luck and fish till they quit.