thanks guys for all the suggestions!! today I found a quart of black lacquer paint in my shop that came from a fishing spoon maker who also sells paint, also found some white under coat primer, didn't realize I had the black. I have used this paint before in a red glitter and it was very fast drying and very hard and tough, and I think I have used vinyl clear gloss over this paint in the past, I may have lucked out on this find. I think I'll some up with this setup and see if the clear gloss works over this lacquer.