Thread: High Visibility Fluorocarbon Line

Originally Posted by Yodie

As to knots... the nano braid is so small (.001”) that my normal 2 turn surgeons knot won’t hold and a 3 turn or double uni or blood knot create a line profile too big for the micro guides on a couple of my rods, primarily the 6’3” lunakia.

Your line guilds has the same size hole diameter as a bobber stop bead ?

Originally Posted by Techno2000

Your line guilds has the same size hole diameter as a bobber stop bead ?

I’m sure he’ll answer but since I have several of the same rods he has.....yes the guides are that small. I thought 3mm were small....then I bought rods with guides at 2.5mm....even tougher for an old man to thread. Then in the past couple of years they have gone to 2mm guides. They are tiny....one isn’t going to be using bobber stops with these rods. But you get a lighter...more sensitive rod. I have a new rod coming that is 6’ 3” with 9 guides. Six of those will be at 2mm......going to tax these old eyes to thread them up....LOL.

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

yes the guides are that small. I thought 3mm were small....then I bought rods with guides at 2.5mm....even tougher for an old man to thread. Then in the past couple of years they have gone to 2mm guides. They are tiny....one isn’t going to be using bobber stops with these rods. But you get a lighter...more sensitive rod. I have a new rod coming that is 6’ 3” with 9 guides. Six of those will be at 2mm......going to tax these old eyes to thread them up....LOL.

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Seems like that would just cause unnecessary drag on the line when casting.

Originally Posted by Techno2000

Seems like that would just cause unnecessary drag on the line when casting.

Not at all. The best casting rods I’ve ever had....they cast effortlessly.

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

Not at all. The best casting rods I’ve ever had....they cast effortlessly.

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That's interesting, I would love to know the physics behind the idea of micro guilds .

Originally Posted by Techno2000

That's interesting, I would love to know the physics behind the idea of micro guilds .

Here is a good article. My first use of micro guides were using an ESP Power Lite 7 foot rod a number of years back. The rod....for the price.....had good sensitivity. Those micro guides were a big part of that. Of course they were nowhere near as small as the guides on the rods I’m using now. In the past 6 years...now going on 7 years I guess....of buying JDM rods I’ve seen the micro guides go from 3.5mm....3m.....2.5mm and now 2mm. They are certainly not for every fishing application. But all I do is cast micro plastics using 2-3 pound test line....no slip floats so no bobber stops. It’s funny since I started using rods with the 2mm micros when I fish a rod with 3.5mm micros I think “man those guides are big”....LOL. Which of course they are not. It seems though the 2018 and later UL rods are going to 2mm guides. I don’t know how much smaller they can get but I guess they could.

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Originally Posted by Techno2000

Seems like that would just cause unnecessary drag on the line when casting.

I’ll have to check my Little Lunakia to be sure, but they are at most 2.5mm there towards the top. I’m still pretty young with decently corrected vision, but good grief if the wind is blowing just a bit it’s an exercise in patience to get a rod strung up sometimes.

As far as unnecessary drag... I’m not an engineer of the pencil and paper type, so I can’t speak to the technicality of it, but I can tell you I can cast a .5gr jig-head and trout magnet a heck of a lot further with this 6’3” Lunakia with teeny tiny guides than I can my 6’6” Loomis IMX 781 UL or 6’9” St Croix UL Panfish. A lot of that is rod action/taper... but the guides don’t seem to hurt too much.

Originally Posted by Yodie

Randy said it better than I can.

I use Suffix 2lb Nanobraid a lot now, but as he stated, it doesn’t sink, Ester mono will, but there are some downsides to ester that it isn’t always the correct option either. When I am using a drop shot with 1/8-1/4 oz weight vertically, braid is the best option, but when casting a light jighead trying to fish deeper water, fluoro is king, especially when there is any wind, the Nanobraid is exceptionally good at getting wind blown....

I got to fish a couple days in the last week or so with this Sunline multi color fluoro, and so far it’s the real deal, the colored section literally fluoresce bright orange and green with smoke black section in between, its super easy to see with ANY amount of sunlight. My only complaint is the 3lb I bought is a bit thicker than I prefer. Once digitaka has stock again of the 2 or 2.5 I’ll have some on order to try.

As to knots... the nano braid is so small (.001”) that my normal 2 turn surgeons knot won’t hold and a 3 turn or double uni or blood knot create a line profile too big for the micro guides on a couple of my rods, primarily the 6’3” lunakia.

I tested out the sunline fc sniper bms 3 lbs test on my tenyru lunakia yesterday.

Was easy to see when fishing, doesn't cast as far as varivas ester 2.3 lbs but similar.

Caught of bunch of blue gills and small largemouth. Liked the extra strength and not tying a flouro leader on. Definitely easier to see in bright sunlight

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Originally Posted by gjaime

I tested out the sunline fc sniper bms 3 lbs test on my tenyru lunakia yesterday.

Was easy to see when fishing, doesn't cast as far as varivas ester 2.3 lbs but similar.

Caught of bunch of blue gills and small largemouth. Liked the extra strength and not tying a flouro leader on. Definitely easier to see in bright sunlight

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Been using this line the past few trips.....haven’t found any bluegill and that is why no posts about it. I have however caught quite a few KY bass on it. I feel as you that it sure makes a difference without the leader knot. It is not as sensitive as ester. I like it although I’m giving up considerable casting distance over the ester. As Yodie mentioned stepping down to some 2.5# test will help with the casting distance.

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

Been using this line the past few trips.....haven’t found any bluegill and that is why no posts about it. I have however caught quite a few KY bass on it. I feel as you that it sure makes a difference without the leader knot. It is not as sensitive as ester. I like it although I’m giving up considerable casting distance over the ester. As Yodie mentioned stepping down to some 2.5# test will help with the casting distance.

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I was looking on the website for this line, there is only a small difference in line diameter between the 2.5 and 3.0 I feel like this line is breaking higher than its rated strength, so I will be most likely going to the 2.0 next to see how much it helps with cast difference.