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    Some time back I read an article concerning hook size and fish fatalities , anybody know if it was on here?
    Had a discussion about "weedless" flies IE hook point up vs conventional tyes......... many claim hook point up kills them because it enters the brain ?
    any input?
    Pat


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    I don't remember an article like that on here, and I read every post.

    FWIW, I think that's ridiculous.

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    +1, dont sound right.

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    Found this, a little lengthy but still doesn`t answer my question
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    http://fishlab.nres.uiuc.edu/Documen...0al%202003.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Found this, a little lengthy but still doesn`t answer my question
    Pat
    http://fishlab.nres.uiuc.edu/Documen...0al%202003.pdf
    Short answer: I don't think this is an issue for any artificial lure or fly above a size 14.

    Long answer: live bait is different. I read most of that article and think it's focusing on the wrong thing. They assume deep hooking/bad hooking all relates to the hook itself. IMO, it has far more to do with the float used than the hook. A bluegill can swallow just about any of the hooks they mention if they're given enough time to do so.

    That article mentions a test they did using different hooks but the same spring-type pencil float that many people use. First, those floats are not very sensitive, and they just don't show light bites. Plus, they told the test anglers to wait until the float went all the way under the water. Therefore, they're practically guaranteeing that the bluegill will have the bait in his mouth long before the angler sets the hook.

    For live bait fishing, I use very tiny fly hooks and very sensitive floats and just don't have these deep-hooking problems.

    It's like they said in Field of Dreams: "If you build it, they will come."

    Likewise, if you give a bluegill time to swallow a bait, he will.

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    Usual fatalities that I've experienced, witnessed or read about has always invloved either gill damage or the swallowing of the hook(and trying to remove it).. Never heard of hook size being a contributing factor..

    HTH

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