As mentioned already, a lot of bass fisherman frown upon the panfish guys. And though, I have no problem with bass fisherman, or any other fisherman for that matter. I can't understand how fun it could be to reel in a bass on an H action rod with 30 lb. braid, on a 20 dollar lure. I see the guys on the lakes I fish do it, and its over before it starts. Maybe its just me, but I don't get it.