reaper i am going to have to take you up on that offer. i am limited also on the lake due to my 14' vbottom i normally fish blue and spencer and would love an opportunity to learn from and pick up some new techniques. it would be an honor for me to be able to get out with with some of the "elites" on oologah. i will be in touch for sure. my main thing is i know alot of people are busy and get limited time on the water due to there family obligations and work. so i want to make sure it is worth your time. thanks again good luck on the lake