Thanks TY for the info. Caught some good fish 13 to 15.5 a couple of Fridays ago out off the rocks till they quit drawing water, then they shut off. fished the brush for a while but they were all fish about 8 - 11" so quit fishing them. Caught them all on metallic blue and chartreuse 3 inch stingers with 1/4 oz. road runner head in 12 to 15 FOW. When they hit they thumped he old meat dragger hard . Wanting to try the Pro series out this week to see if like it as much as the meat dragger. Thanks again for the info.