Hawgdawg, you exactly right, i know i donated to quite a few steak dinners for others last yr . Yeah, i love it when we place, but, i enjoy meeting everyone at the ramp before and after the tourneys. In the last coupla yrs i have learned more about crappie fishing from this group of folks ( especially the ones who fish the tourneys ) than i could have learned in a lifetime. Plus , i met a guy that i love to share a boat with ( RG ) and that i think more of than my own brother!! Like DD said , i consider it a big extended family, the day i stop haveing fun doing the tourneys , i stop fishing them. But i dont see it happening anytime soon, i have a blast even when we only catch one fish, to me that's what it's all about.