Thanks for all the input guys and gals. I'm not trying to run or push any agenda here, this was just an idea I had after seeing the problems and logistics from other camps. I'm all about making things simple, easier, and more enjoyable with the least amount of trouble and aggravation. Judging from what a lot of you said, many are interested in the concept of a permanent location for the camps. The last I looked Enid was leading the poll for fall camp with a strong 75% margin. If it is chosen as the fall location that will give everyone a chance to experience it first hand. Maybe we can have some discussions about it there and then. Thanks folks!!