I do too John, I'm not a fly rod purist by any means, but I can put a bug above a breams head if I want to. I would be afraid to fish with an expensive rig, but you can sure have fun with these old elcheapo's. I say I'm gonna go trout fishing in Arkansas every year, but haven't made it yet. Maybe a couple folks on here would be willing to take a trip and try something different, or maybe someone who has experience can point a poboy in the right direction.