Thread: Reduceing pressure

Originally Posted by slabin

Oh chit

Thats funny.........

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Originally Posted by slabin

Oh chit

Originally Posted by satdoc1

BE CAREFUL sabin, gettin close.

Getting Close?? Heck, he won the National Championship.

You have 1,000 boats on the lake, like Sardis. 2 people in each boat single poling. A 20 fish limit, it takes them 8 hours to get their limits.
You have 200 boats on the same lake. 2 people in each boat, each using 5 poles. They get their 20 fish limit in 2 hours and head home.
Where is the pressure difference?
Limit boaters to the first 300 of the day, skiers and water crafts too. When they leave, you can't take their place.
Limit spillway fishing to the first 300 of the day. When they leave, you can't take their place either. Either of these would reduce the pressure for sure. I'd hate to drive that far and not get to fish. I'd be throwing my other voice at someone for sure then.

I started this thread in part as a way to look at way's to protect something that may or may not need it.Also as a way for you guy's to come up with other ideas on how to do this other than taking poles away if this (pressure) is what MDWFP is baseing their changes on.Iknow yall want data but this is the goverment your trying to deal with and we all know how that goes.Instead of bashing and being negitive when someone throws an idea out here put your head's together and give the guy's going to the meeting some differant ammo to shoot at them.Now I'm going to spin this another direction.What do yall think caused such a rise in pressure,pop.groweth a rise in the # of people who crappie fish or the big 4 gaining trouphy status?I'm going trouphy status I don't see people comeing from many miles away just to catch of limit of average size 1lb-11/2lb they come for the chance to catch a trouphy.I know from reading on here alot of yall oss have made friends down here and come for more than the fishing but the majority come for big fish.In the future and I hope it never happens but if the quality of fish drop and let's say they find with data it was caused by pressure here is what i think will happen.I't get's where you can't catch a 3lb fish, 2lb fish become few and for between but you can still catch your limit of average fish.Most of the oss folk's will move on to the next big thing.When the big fish are gone so will go the people and there money.The state of MS. her resources and her people will be left holding the stink end of the stick.

There's that OOS thingy again.

I've proposed this idea in the past to Luke warm receptions. If trophy size fish are the goal, the only proven method is slot limits. Any body of water has a finite carrying capacity. For example, if a certain body of water can sustain 1000 pounds of fish per acre, it could be 1000 one pound fish, 500 two pound fish, 333 three pound fish or any combination.
Size limits are a double edge sword. On one hand, some fish grow to trophy size while most fish are taken out when they reach the length limit.
On the other hand, size limits load the lake with large amounts of under size fish.
If the goal is growing trophy size crappie, a slot limit would work best. Take a bunch of the smaller fish out so they are not competing for the carrying capacity of that body of water.
Put a slot on the most productive breeding size. They go back in. When fish reach trophy size, they are near the end of their life cycle and can be taken without harming the balance.
This method has worked for green carp lakes for years. I know some will not like it because you will have to put back nice fish.
If trophy fish are the goal, this is the way to make it happen.

The subject of slot limits was raised at the Enid meeting in January. Keith Mills response was that crappie grow too fast for a slot limit to work. To do any good a slot limit would have to cover two year classes. And at 2" of growth per year that would make for a 4" slot. His question was what 4" would you want to release. 9"-13"? or 10"-14"? or maybe 12"-16"?
The single polers didn't like that answer. So it was about that time they targeted us evil "trollers".