Barbie, car salesmen seem to think that they hold all the cards. Last time I was in Minneapolis, we went down to buy my son a new Honda. Got on the lot, found the one we wanted, found a salesman and thought we were going to buy it for cash, Wrong! When we wanted to negotiate the salesman closed his little book and said: "Look mister if you want to negotiate, you are at the wrong place. What is says on the window is what you pay. We don't negotiate" That's what we got from every dealer we went to in Burnsville. So we bought it in Memphis and had it delivered to Minnesota. Stick to your guns. BTW, you're up early. Good morning.