I agree with Speck….Do Your Homework!!! I have used guides several times both fresh and saltwater. They have all been enjoyable and some the fishing was good and some not so good. None have been spectacular; maybe my expectations were too high. The price, time on the water, equipment, boat, bait and many other items are always discussed upfront with references more than once! I’ve even gone on another state board and researched guides before, if anyone will tell you the truth it’s another CDC member…unless you’re a lurker! As for asking to pay less, that could rub anyone the wrong way (no need for the profanity though); a tip is what a good guide should receive.