Pulling Cranks 101

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02-03-2016, 09:09 PM
Rees Guide

Arkie 220s work well at that speed, the Bandits seem to need a little more speed, haven't pulled any Shad Raps to know.
03-15-2016, 02:09 AM
FlyBye

I have one of the Bandit crankbait charts that show how deep each series (100, 200, 300) will run based upon the amount of line you let out. I know that it is pretty accurate when pulling with planer boards, but I am going to eventually pull some behind me in my kayak without planer boards.

The rods are at 50 degree angles, the rod tip is about 6 feet above the water line and I don't plan on using planer boards... Is there a nifty "rule of thumb" that will allow me to know and set my desired diving depths? I know that this probably wouldn't matter when longer line is used, but it should make a difference with shorter amounts of line.

Thanks,
03-24-2016, 04:38 AM
ducker

Anyone used the shakespeare ATS line counters?
03-24-2016, 04:45 AM
martyrm

I just put a couple on some rods but haven't tried them yet.
03-24-2016, 08:31 PM
"G"

I bought some but have not used them yet
04-21-2016, 07:23 PM
NickD

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyBye

I have one of the Bandit crankbait charts that show how deep each series (100, 200, 300) will run based upon the amount of line you let out. I know that it is pretty accurate when pulling with planer boards, but I am going to eventually pull some behind me in my kayak without planer boards.

The rods are at 50 degree angles, the rod tip is about 6 feet above the water line and I don't plan on using planer boards... Is there a nifty "rule of thumb" that will allow me to know and set my desired diving depths? I know that this probably wouldn't matter when longer line is used, but it should make a difference with shorter amounts of line.

Thanks,

The distance back for depth starts where the line enters the water. The angle wont have much effect on it.
04-21-2016, 07:26 PM
NickD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

Is it any crankbait that will work right at the speed of .08 to 1mph? I would like to pull 1 or 2 pair of planer boards(cranks) off the front side of the boat as I longline 1/8th jigs out the back. I was thinking maybe the smaller 220 Arkies, Bandit 100, 200 or shad raps.

Flicker shads run great at slow speeds. I usually use #5's and sometimes #6's, especially in dirty water.
04-22-2016, 04:38 PM
Joey Clark

Hey guys I have a question. I decided to go with braid this year to pull cranks with. I bought the power pro in 20 pound test on the box it said it contained 150 yards of braid so I figured I would put 225' of braid on top of 300' of mono for backing after I did the first to reels I noticed I still had a lot of braid left on the spool does anyone know approximately how much line is on a spool. I felt like I wasted a lot of line. Thanks for any input.
04-23-2016, 01:23 PM
Gomer Snerd

Spool. Finally got it to not autocorrect. if it wasn't full it put on less than it read.
04-23-2016, 01:42 PM
Joey Clark

Thanks that's all I could come up with myself.
04-27-2016, 02:34 PM
walker733

I want to push cranks but am having trouble finding the weights to use. Who should I contact?
04-27-2016, 04:22 PM
KnightShadow10

ScottV was making some
05-19-2016, 09:26 PM
feelay

Anyone looking for cheap line counters, I found these. Quite a bit cheaper than the Okuma's.

https://northwoodsoutlet.com/product...trolling-reel/
05-19-2016, 09:33 PM
martyrm

Quote:

Originally Posted by feelay

Anyone looking for cheap line counters, I found these. Quite a bit cheaper than the Okuma's.

https://northwoodsoutlet.com/product...trolling-reel/

I got 2 of these to try out. Haven't had a chance to try them yet but look the same as the okuma's

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05-20-2016, 08:04 AM
Snubby

Quote:

Originally Posted by feelay

Anyone looking for cheap line counters, I found these. Quite a bit cheaper than the Okuma's.

https://northwoodsoutlet.com/product...trolling-reel/

Nice find feelay, I just ordered four of these.. great price :highfive
05-26-2016, 07:51 AM
coolerfull

Sorry but have a stupid question. On those reels what is the difference between size 15&20? Is it just the size of the reel itself
05-26-2016, 10:53 AM
feelay

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolerfull

Sorry but have a stupid question. On those reels what is the difference between size 15&20? Is it just the size of the reel itself

20 is just a bit larger and will hold more line.
05-26-2016, 11:35 AM
coolerfull

Thank ya Mr. Feelay
06-05-2016, 09:31 AM
jchag1718

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyrm

I got 2 of these to try out. Haven't had a chance to try them yet but look the same as the okuma's

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I have the Cabela's Troll Master III's and the Shakespeare ATS. IMO the Cabela reels are of much better quality. Don't get me wrong they are worth the money if you're just getting started. However, I don't think I will buy anymore in the future. :fish
06-05-2016, 09:38 AM
shifty

read the whole thing...send me my prize of bandit grab bag
06-07-2016, 10:28 AM
JTMavs

For you planer board users, do you have to go with the medium size to get the tattle flags? Send the small ones don't have flags. Do you really need the flags?

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06-08-2016, 04:40 PM
yikess

You don't have to have the tattle flags but it sure makes it easy to see when a fish is on. On picture perfect days it's usually easy to see anyway but they are nice to have on windy days or days with lots of boat traffic.
06-08-2016, 06:53 PM
JTMavs

Thanks Yikes!

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07-08-2016, 11:37 AM
Nutbush

Quote:

Originally Posted by "G"

Maj...I am sending you a PM...I don't want to highjack this thread. :)

Hey G, would you mind pm'ing me also? I am set up better to push than to pull and would like to see how it is done.
07-08-2016, 07:21 PM
"G"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutbush

Hey G, would you mind pm'ing me also? I am set up better to push than to pull and would like to see how it is done.

PM sent
10-12-2016, 07:35 AM
RK1

Someone school me on the best rods for pushing, been pulling with 8' and 12' PST's looking to get 4 14's or 16's to add for pulling and pushing. I like my PST's but I've already broke one tip which seems to be a notorious problem, I spider rig with Southern Crappie Rods 16'ers. Who's used his 14t extra heavy rod, crappiemaxx?

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12-10-2016, 05:35 PM
Bingo

What is a good way of getting a Bandit or other crankbait down to 20 ft while pulling? Would an inline weight be the way to go?
12-10-2016, 05:44 PM
DaveB40

Hey "Bingo", check Off Shore Tackle's Tadpole OR36 diving planer in Sz 1 or 2
It's an inline planer weight that will get your lures down deeper, or you can use
and in-line trolling sinker that come in multiple weights(1/4oz to ?)
Tight Lines - Dave
12-10-2016, 06:05 PM
Bingo

Thanks DaveB40, i will check them out.
12-11-2016, 08:08 PM
Rees Guide

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

What is a good way of getting a Bandit or other crankbait down to 20 ft while pulling? Would an inline weight be the way to go?

Not to take anything away from what Dave said but I use a 1 oz weight about 4 foot above the crank with a 1/16oz roadrunner on a leader just above it, for me this is a better and cheaper option. Some days the roadrunner out produces the crank and some day the roadrunner only catches a few but it adds to the totals.
12-19-2016, 10:55 PM
Bingo

Thanks also Rees Guide. When i am trolling Bandit 200, 300 or the Arkie 350 i usually keep my speed at 1.7 or 1.8mph. I want to try some flicker shads, shad raps and some of the smaller Arkies this year. Can i get by with the smaller flicker shads(2"-5cm and next size up 6cm), smaller Arkies and smaller shad raps(2" sr5 and even the 2 3/4"-sr7) trolling slower speeds? Just guessing 1 to 1.5mph?
12-19-2016, 11:11 PM
Rees Guide

I run the small Arkies at 1mph with good success, can't speak for the others.
Your welcome!!!!!
01-13-2017, 07:29 AM
KnightShadow10

I seem to catch more on the 6cm, and 7cm flicker shads on the big 4
04-02-2017, 03:53 PM
RK1

Anybody have a depth chart for wiggle warts? I got some blanks made from an original pre-rapala wart and went ahead and painted a few of them to test but can't seem to find a chart on em https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2b282c8e3a.jpg

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04-02-2017, 07:21 PM
Rees Guide

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK1

Anybody have a depth chart for wiggle warts? I got some blanks made from an original pre-rapala wart and went ahead and painted a few of them to test but can't seem to find a chart on em https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2b282c8e3a.jpg

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For me they seem to run pretty close to a Bandit 300.
04-02-2017, 07:50 PM
Mr. S

I'm broke just reading this thread. Well most of it anyway. :fish
04-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Tommy Skarlis

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK1

Anybody have a depth chart for wiggle warts? I got some blanks made from an original pre-rapala wart and went ahead and painted a few of them to test but can't seem to find a chart on em

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You can purchase the app from Precision Trolling for your phone and they sell stickers for individual lures as well.
04-05-2017, 04:51 PM
Tommy Skarlis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

Thanks also Rees Guide. When i am trolling Bandit 200, 300 or the Arkie 350 i usually keep my speed at 1.7 or 1.8mph. I want to try some flicker shads, shad raps and some of the smaller Arkies this year. Can i get by with the smaller flicker shads(2"-5cm and next size up 6cm), smaller Arkies and smaller shad raps(2" sr5 and even the 2 3/4"-sr7) trolling slower speeds? Just guessing 1 to 1.5mph?

I have had tremendous success pulling Flicker Shads and Shad Raps at .8 to 1.5mph
05-31-2017, 04:01 PM
dep589

Can anyone answer how the Okuma 15DX reels hold up?
05-31-2017, 04:23 PM
MO' MONEY

For the price, can't beat em

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