Tony, when coming back to Sportsman's Marina Sunday, there was a piece of wood about 2 feet long X 16-18 inches around floating no more than 2 inches above the surface. It was bobbing in the 3 foot rollers or it wouldn't have been seen. That would take off a lower unit in a New York second.

All one has to do is go on the rocks below either dam here and you will decide 90% of bank fishermen there are total pigs from all the crap they carry down the rocks but leave rather than carrying it back out. I know several good farm ponds that have been closed to fishing for this very reason.